Interesting idea/setting. Shitty mechanics.

>What can you tell me about it?
Way too much kitchen sink for me. They should've focused on one or two ideas.
>Any warnings?
Pretty clunky system.
>any Praises?
Cthulhu vs Evangelion.

>>6594167
You'll probably hear this from everyone. I'm incorporating some of the ideas (arcanotech, engels, tag'ers) into my medieval fantasy setting, but I would never run an actual cthulhutech game.

fishman rape camps

>>6594194
Go on

I reckon it's finally passable as something that is playable by now, since they actually released a book that contains preconstructed adventures (after what, 3 years?).

Still the crunch is shit, and the fluff is a combination of the bad parts of CoC and the bad parts of Evangelion. At the very least, they missed out on the parts that made either of those good in it's own right.

Also, tries to be investigator, mecha and high-powered agent game all at once, and does none of them good or detailed.

>>6594209

The fishmen are also magicians.
Then there are the furries of Shub-Niggurath.
Also, Russian child prostitution rings.

Pic related, it's anime + cthulhu mythos.

>>6594194
You forget Dagon cults, where nailing a hybrid is a holy act.

The setting is awesome, the character creation mechanics are awesome... the battle system sucks dicks but can be mostly ignored and patched up. The main problem of the game is a overly involving dice gimmick. Either way I had a lot of fun GMing this.

Idea is only good if you jack off to one, and lord help you, or two of the worst fandoms in 'popular' culture. Those being emo piloted giant robots and love craft. After you get past that steaming pile of bad writting and DEEP ideas you have a system that has one of the worst dice pool systems ever in that no GM can keep up with it's "you suck or you are goddly" rolls that can pop up and end encounters. Then the stats and implementations of this dicepool look half finished and no semblance of balance in any area, you either do great with the same few ideas or suck horribly, and if you wanted giant robots enjoy homebrewing around that clusterfuck of codes which is if you came here for that you might as well look elsewhere. Everything is the worst kind of nerd hobby, idiot players attracted by the DEEP fluff and LAWL INSANITY DAMAGE type, worst system made by people not knowing what the fuck they are doing, and uncontrollable system in game without the GM going "reroll" every time an oddity comes up. Shit sucks.

It always seemed like it would be good. Unfortunately, everyone around here doesn't know any games other than 4e and Pathfinder.

The rules and mechanics of the game need -a lot- of work. Even simple movement can get a little confusing with the rules they give you, and psionics are pretty wrecked as is. Mecha rules are as clunky as the regular rules, and you'll find yourself really struggling to get off the ground in character creation to begin with. Much of the rules are very similar to a mixer blend of WoD "if you munchkin you'll make an unbeatable character, the point is to make an organic character not win the game" and Rifts "one player is a mecha pilot destroying cities, the other player is a pennyless bum named joe with 4 rounds left in his ancient tech revolver". You really need to decide what sort of game you want to play (street level, tager, or mecha) and not allow the options for anything else into your game.

Once you get a lot of things sorted out and houseruled (at least in my experience) the baseline crunch system isn't too bad, and is fairly clever. I liked the crunch once I applied 30 hours and almost 20 pages of houserules to it.

Fluffwise, if you like mecha, and you like cosmic horror, it's a goldmine. If you don't, then why are you even picking up the book? I think the setting is one of the more original works recently, and has a fairly viable explanation of why things are, and why they work the way they do. The mood and atmosphere you can capture (paranoia, cosmic horror, hopelessness, grittiness) are amazing.

tl;dr: Once you houserule most of the crunch, the setting is absolutely wonderful (if you can decide on what sort of game you want to play).

>>6594554
I like mecha and I like cosmic horror.

I always say fluff is more important than crunch.

im on rs looking at the books, im downloading the core handbook but whats dark passion? and theres also one without a subtitle. how many books are in this system?

Awesome story, horrible system, its BLEAK. Enjoy your horrible insanity/death/worse. You don't need eyes where you're going.

Why people always call it evangelion plus something when the only part of the evangelion in it is that some of the mechs are alive ?

>>6594259
Thats like, your opinion man...

>>6594828
If you can't see it yourself, you're not going to understand it if I explain it to you.

>>6594786
Dark Passions is a book giving fluff for various minor cults that weren't large or influential enough to be mentioned in the main book, but could be handy for any kind of non-frontline combat type of game.

I actaually enjoy the system. Character creation is no problem, fluff is on the most part great.

You have to houserule a rule or two in combat, but what system doesn't need that ? The only thing I have yet to figure out is how to make grenades not too powerful, but stronger than a pistol round.

>>6594852
Or simply you can't explain something there isn't.

>>6594886
>I like objectionably bad systems, my opinions are invalid.

>>6594949
>I have no constructive counter argument.

>>6594828
One world government after a sci-fi/horror catastrophe that killed 3/4ths of the Earth's population is using advanced technology including mecha to fight a superior foe. Their only hope is a biomechanical war machine provided by a shadowy secret society that can only be piloted by a select few who are able to interface directly into its central nervous system. At stake is the fate of humanity, either a swift and merciless end at the hand of eldritch horrors or a poorly understood future that some might find equally horrific.

>>6595200
Not to mention somewhere in the first 10 pages of the book the authors themselves state to have been strongly inspired by it.

>>6595200
>One world government
UN =/= NEG - the countries in evangelion are pretty much intact. What you might think is SEELE, which is more of a Illuminati type of society.

>after a sci-fi/horror catastrophe that killed 3/4ths of the Earth's population is using advanced technology including mecha to fight a superior foe
Well I NEVER heard that one before evangelion.

>Their only hope is a biomechanical war machine
This is the evangelion related part

>provided by a shadowy secret society
You mean the government and a giant well know corporation ? Truly, those two are the most dark and shoddy things in the world !

>that can only be piloted by a select few
No, there is a abundance of potential pilots. It's the Engels which are few and why they pick only the best.

>At stake is the fate of humanity, either a swift and merciless end at the hand of eldritch horrors or a poorly understood future that some might find equally horrific.
Yeah, that's a evanglion exclusive plot right there.

>>6595274
Yeah, it goes excatly like this:

"Neon Genesis Evangelion was an inspiration for the Engels of Cthulhutech(...)"

And nothing more.

>>6595274
And? I've seen the same lines in WoD and D&D actually...

>>6595343
Indeed, however the Engels take a large portion of the settings focus and if you look closer you'll see that the parallels are quite deeply rooted into the fluff. Which is great as I find it to mash perfectly. Especially the Aeon War Syndrome.

>>6595379
Yes but still, it's not enough to call it evangelion/cthulhu.

I'd rather call it mechwarrior/cthulhu.

Great, great fluff. But poker dice gimmick takes a lot of getting used to. Game works a fuckload better if you use the cards rules in Vade Mecum, shit just goes faster that way. The downside is that while making it easier to play, the card rules also make it easier for the players to survive.

>>6595379

I thought Aeon War Syndrome was the effect of EVERYBODY knowing the unthinkable. One of the biggest victories in Lovecraft's stories was the ability for humanity to roll over and go back to sleep, thinking it was just a bad dream. AWS is what happens when humans wake up and find out the 'nightmare' was reality.

>>6595412
Also about people getting used to the thought that they already lost and constantly getting reconstructed with cloned parts.

>>6595412
AWS is like PTSD on meth while you watch a split-screen of Event Horizon and children getting raped and then eaten by Gugs.

>>6595412
Indeed. But that's because AWS isn't a single disorderm. What I meant is the mental breakdown of the Engel pilots as they are basically thrown into communion with "monsters" to fight "monsters" which in turn splendidly parallels one of my favourite themes in Evangelion.

>>6595472
Ah, no, it seems you misunderstood. AWS is what touches all the soldiers of the Aeon War. Engel pilots burning out is hinted at and presented in the story hooks related to them.

>>6595492
Ummm... and that matters where? Engel pilots are equally soldiers in the Aeon War as any other footman or tank commander, they just have a closer insight into the inhuman.
AWS is defined in the book as:
"The maddening effect of the Old Ones, their minions,
and the occult in general is well known. This doesn’t
mean that people don’t naturally have mental problems
in CthulhuTech. To help differentiate between those who
naturally have difficulties and those who’ve been driven
mad by the Strange Aeon, psychologists use the term
Aeon War Syndrome or AWS. Aeon War Syndrome encompasses
any host of disorders that manifest as people
are confronted with the eldritch horrors of the world and
most forms of treatment development are geared towards
helping its victims."
Which basically catches every playable character "class", simply for each of them the exact reason is different.

>>6595539
I said it isn't exclusive to them.

>>6595539
That sounds like PTSD on PCP to me.

>>6595550
And where did I say anything about it being exclusive?

Nazzadi pics are there for fanservice.
That's the best praise I can give it.

Plus, you know, a whole race who doesn't have any issues with wearing clothes, only they conform to the western ideal of beauty instead of something else.

>>6595581
>What I meant is the mental breakdown of the Engel pilots

>>6595557
Oh it totally is. And it's awesome.
For the Engel Pilots this basically means a blaze of glory before they burn out and turn into half catatonic shells of their former selves.

>>6595611
Reading it wrong. You are.

I'm seriously considering having my players run up on a out of time Cimmerian fighting Mi-Go deep in the Alaskan wilderness. The Great Race of Yith would be involved somehow. Also cultists of Set.

>>6595625
And then the Engel goes nutshit and kills everyone it can before the guys upstairs can get around to engaging their armor locks.

>>6595636
Or rather, you wrote it in a confusing manner. Don't blame other people for reading it as such.

>>6595662
Well, ok, fine. Maybe I did.

>>6594156
Good pilots get lovin's from their Engels.

>>6595760
Oh yeah, there was that erotic writefaggotry, wasn't there. Shit. CAN NOT UNREMEMBER

>>6595772
Why did you have to mention that ?

>>6595791
Because I remembered it and now all of you have to, as well.

>>6595802
You are now remembering a female Engel pilot receiving consensual tentacle sex. In the missionary position.

Hence the AWS

>>6595836

Hey, I tried to write that one, too. It's just not as good as the first one.

>>6595760
Dude - that was fucking awesome.
You dream of fucking a woman - and it is goddamn great.

I heard that guy was going to do something with Exalted, as well?

>>6595912
I think he was, yes - something with Adorjan, IIRC?

>>6595896
Agreed - your first one was clearly superior.

>>6596014
Second needed more build up and less shotas. Though the multitude of fetishes was amusing, I would imagine her computer has untold harddrives full of kinky stuff.

>>6595932
oh yeah - whatever happened to that one?
Did it ever get finished?

I played a game with two tagers, a battle focused parapsychic and an arcanotech who was just a little nutty, didn't do much in combat. Things actually didn't too badly, we actually had a lot of fun, might have been the group though. I talked with the GM from that group last week, seems he's recently run a game with a different composition and he said the game pretty much falls apart when you have varying power levels.

>>6596263
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>>6595912

Yeahhhhh, college happened. I'm trying to write a paper for political philosophy. The teacher said we should come up with our own topics, and we have three papers that can beturned in at any time before the end of the semester. The hardest thing of all is coming up with the topic.

>>6596533
Ah - well, at least I didn't miss the story, somehow, so that's a plus.

>>6596692

I promise you will get delicious Jouten sex.

>>6596748
As long as the Jouten of Adorjan is there, I'm happy...as long as she'd be on top.

Question: Which dice mechanic would you put on CTech that would fit? ORE, WoD, Silcore, Don't Rest Your Head or whatever.

The good side of pker dice, i think, is that it would let you play at CoC level (yes, you just failed san) or at Exalted level (cut thta roach's head off) by limiting maximum skill ratings.

>>6596748

Wait, you wrote that? I read that on 1d4chan, had no idea what it was based on. I actually liked the tent/straight shota, since it was all consensual. Wouldn't mind reading more of your work if it's in a similar vein.

To those who have played this, what campaign ideas did you use after not finding any in the book? I want to know how easy would be to set up

Necropost

Pretty decent. The mechanics need houseruling though.

I like the setting. You could probably use the setting with another system easily enough.

>>6598567
WoD, but why change it ? The dice poker is very random, but hey, that's why it's fun and worth laughing of later.
>>6596390
Well of course a Tager will be stronger than a human - duh. Not everyone can be equally strong just because they invested the same amount of points - just like even a cheap revolver beast master kung-fu. What you should do is create character that give you fun and don't necessarily need to be fighters - it's Cthulhu.

>>6594828
Some of us watched Evangellion for the giant robots that were alive and tried to ignore the faggotty trappings that the rest of the show was couched in.

>>6602102
I don't see the connection.

>>6602567
You're surprised this sort of tunnel vision exists? When viewed as a show primarily about giant living robots fighting off eldritch horrors there's a clear connection.

>>6603270
No, I don't see the connection between "stop calling CT eva/something" and "I didn't like eva plot".

>>6603328
I was explaining to that guy why people say "CthulhuTech is like Evangellion plus Call of CthulhuRight", see if you can follow me here...

"Stop saying CT has elements of Eva in it"-guy complains that 'Evangellion is all about the angst, and CthulhuTech isn't like that at all'.

"CthulhuTech has elements of Eva in it"-guy is someone who glosses over the angst and pretentiousness because:
they're either irrelevant to the comparison he's trying to make (using an imperfect comparison to save time, whowouldhavethunkit?)
--or--
they're the sort of person who were too busy watching 'giant living mecha used to fight eldritch horrors' for the pretentious angsty faggotry inherent in Eva to even register.

>>6603398
...are you stupid or something ?

I said "stop saying it's Eva/coc when the only thing from Eva are the living mechs. It should be Mechwarrior/coc" Where the fuck did you pull "Evangellion is all about the angst" from ?

I basically said "those aren't pancakes just because they have butter on them" while you responded "I hate everything about pancakes except for butter". And now you're adding that I said "Those aren't pancakes because pancakes are about being delicious while this shit is not".

So read previous post before posting yourself.

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>>6605391
i think you missed the joke...

>>6605399
Then I hope you get this.