>>32625972
That picture seems a little... ominous.
Although, could we summon demons for the traps?

Rolled 8, 5 = 13

>>32625972

Would this fairly uninspired plan work?


(1) Familars use decoys to disable all the mundane trips

(2) Undine summons a hammer that Talon will empower.

(3) Vad and Talon can run the gaunlet back to back while the familiars and Mal summon decoys to keep the summons off our backs.

(4) Finn and Lynn provide covering fire with arrows

Reposting real quick.

>>32625908
>"All of the mundane traps are lain in the floors and wall. I could likely disable all of those outside the alcove without triggering the runes over the course of an hour."

Well I'm all for this occurring then. It'll take a little time but will allow the rest of the group to be on the ground with us should the patterns spill over the dead zone.

Mal can break barriers pretty easily, as can Talon, I assume Vad can punch holes in them if his powers line up with ours.

Also I'm all for the Undine making us a hammer idea. Because different combat flavor and the clear use.

>>32626027
I am uncomfortable with step 3.

Also, can we at least TRY the plan with the curved blunt astral arrow first and let it fail before going for something more dangerous?

>>32626027
Could work, basically a combination of the decoy and the hammer while going directly for the objective.

Has a distinct lack of rope usage though, which is unseemly for an adventurer.

>>32626058
celebrate with some light bondage

>>32626027

Well we can just blow the hour for Gnome to disable all of the mundane traps. Probably worth the effort.

Otherwise I'm bascially okay with this idea.

>>32626057

Wait a moment!

Can the summons trigger the mechanical traps?

We can maybe use a round of somewhat ethereal decoys to lure them.

>>32626057

I think the point against this still accidentally shattering it despite the blunt object.

And we don't know what fail safes we'll active by accident.

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>>32626057
I'm curious - have I ever actually done a scene with Talon curving arrows? Because I don't have one down at all in my notes and my memory tells me this is a fan theory.

>>32626027
This is a feasible plan, though step 1 would be replaced with Gnome deactivating them as it's easier (unless you guys feel you're pressed for time).

>>32626058
>Mal summon decoys

Which then gets absorbed. Might be better to just toss rocks.

Though I'm hoping this is the future of our crystal research. Dead magic zones sound amazing to combine against a mage heavy army.

>>32626073
Wouldn't she have to go down into the place to disable the traps thus triggering the spawns and such, thus meaning we'd have to fight the spawns and the knight for an hr while she did so.

Of course we could all gank the knight and tie him up so >>32626058 would be happy then we could shoot the crystal to make >>32626057 happy.

>>32626118

Yes, that's actually what I meant for step 1.

>>32626122

Well seeing as Aspirational seems to approve the idea and states it's easier in >>32626118
I'm going to go with it.

I say we go with the plan above. HAMMER TIME

>>32626100
>I think the point against this still accidentally shattering it despite the blunt object.
you think hitting it with an astral empowered hammer wont shatter it, but hitting it with an astral empowered arrow would?

Can't we just physics this? Make a big enough, possibly curved lever with a spike and a cup on the end?

>>32626150

The hammer trick has been done before, we're just reusing an old tactic. It's about leverage, not direct contact.

>>32626118
>I'm curious - have I ever actually done a scene with Talon curving arrows?
not explicitly, but we are obviously doing that from the various archery scenes. when we don't focus correctly we can't hit the broadside of a barn, and experienced archers can tell that our arrows going in an impossible path.
we are obviously subconsciously curving arrows

>>32626145
Well, it does have us personally running the gauntlet.

Although, if it takes gnome an hour for the mechanical traps, gnome also said that it would take about an hour to drain the battery decoying the magic traps about twelve times.

That would leave us zero traps, and perhaps only a guardian to fight.

>>32626166

We Sandlot now?

>>32626166
Going to need a lot of force to move. And the enchantment records space so the things would probably chop it up.

>>32626171
my arrow suggestion differs from the first guy who suggested an arrow, in that i suggested we used curved arrow to hit from an impossible angel to use leverage

>>32626183

That's a good point, Mal, Vad and Talon can each trigger magical traps pretty easily I'd imagine. Probably worth the effort, assuming we can do them alongside one another.

>>32626194
Big enough lever, et cetera. Since it's curved, we could basically have it extend quite a distance if the cavern behind us is straight enough.

>>32626183
>decoying the magic traps about twelve times

Or a few times twelve times.

But still, combing both actions using the time frame of >>32625720, we should have all the traps gone in an hour.

How about we just have Undine freeze the floor as far as she can then we just slide up to the crystal and take it out then slide back? Its not stuck in it, mages just can't enter the gazebo so they smashed it with a hammer to knock it out of its holder.

>>32626246
She'd get destroyed by eldritch horrors in a wild tentacle scene due to the anti-magic field.

>>32626227
Is this lever made of steel or something? I can just see a summon grabbing the other end and tugging towards it.

>>32626246
if the battery enfeebles talon then he is trapped there alone fighting a horde of summons. allies must rush to reach us.
too risky

>>32626246
I like this idea, except I doubt Undine can freeze the ground fast enough and hard enough not to trigger the guardian and stop the traps.

>>32626246

Roll to see how well Talon skates on ice

>Nat 1

Ooh, that's going to hurt

>>32626276
The guardian doesn't trigger unless someone enters the room.

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Seeing some confusion, so I'll post quickly to dispel some obvious ones. It looks like I'll actually be doing this scene tomorrow, sadly, as even the best plan proposed so far will take a little while to do. If I can lock down a plan before closing the thread, I can resume with it right from the start.

>>32626122
Spawns = runes. Gnome can seal the mundane traps without triggering the room at all. The pattern knight also won't leave the gazebo/alcove/stone-box-with-arches-around-it as if he does he'll probably stop working (just like if Gnome etc cross the line).

>>32626183
>>32626225
The issues is that doing so creates a few hundred angry summons. You could probably deal with them, but it would be a matter of slapping down the summons as they appear basically. You'd essentially be exchanging a race against time with just drawing things out long enough to exhaust the gauntlet.

So plan:

1. Gnome disables mechanical traps while we decoy the magical ones to run out of power.
Undine makes a hammer while this happens.

2. Some people punch the guardian while we walk to the crystal and hammer it..

>>32626304
>>32626027

I guess I'll go with this with the modified 1 then to have Gnome disarm the mundane traps then

>>32626277
Tie a rope around him so they can pull him back if for some reason hes affected by it, he isn't magic.

>>32626274
The field is only around the crystal box thing and the hallway to it is trapped I thought.
>>32626278
Triggering the stuff wouldn't matter everyone else could handle the guardian.

Just tossing stuff out there.

>>32626304
>The issues is that doing so creates a few hundred angry summons.
Well question being if they like eachother, if we can AoE them, and if they can stay around forever.

Are they permanent summons?

>>32626277
>Enfeebles

How would that happen?

>>32626353
>>32626344

Well the summons are magic, right?

What about disabling the mechanical traps, then simply running to the anti-magic field?

Either luring a horde, or running past them as they appear.

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>Can Talon enter the magic deadzone
Both Talon and Vad will be safe and at full power. Caitlyn, Gnome, Salamander and Undine will be actively harmed by it. Mal and Finn will be unharmed but powerless.

>How to open the door?
You have to remove an indestructible crystal from an indestructible mechanism attached to the floor. Then you need to remove the crystal from the deadzone. Merely popping the crystal out of the mechanism won't do the trick. Damaging the crystal may be a terrible idea. You'll need to apply a lot of direct force to remove the crystal.

>Can we curve arrows?
That's a theory. It may work or may fail horribly.

>What triggers the summons?
Anything living or magical entering the room that isn't on the uppermost platform.

>>32626353
>Are they permanent summons?
They'll last around twelve hours.

>Well question being if they like eachother, if we can AoE them, and if they can stay around forever.
The issues is that they'll spawn over the course of an hour, so the first ones will be attacking you while the others warp in. THe summon points are all at different points.

>Plans

The only two truly feasible plans (without relying on theories that may or may not be accurate) are to attempt a normal rush of the crystal (>>32626027) or to slowly wear down the summons (>>32626183).

>>32626382
Thats what I was thinking. We've made barriers with our shield and charged before.

>>32626344
>Tie a rope around him so they can pull him back
through a horde of monsters trying to kill him?
also, the monsters will cut the rope

>>32626388

To clarify: Wearing down the summons means that we would have to personally take them down or wait at least 12 hours for them to disappear naturally, correct?

>>32626368
when talon runs out of power he gets enfeebled (loses his awesome muscles and becomes as strong as a child).
it happened before when experimenting with giving up his power.
He intends to walk into a zone where there is a device that sucks all magic from beings. this is known to be deadly to familiars and magical beings such as lynn.

Can Talon actively break summon runes?

Essentially use the hammer to crack them with a Astral Barrier Break?

>>32626382
its not a magic nullifying field. it is a magic consuming field that draws magic out of victim and uses it to summon more monsters

>>32626397
>>32626388

Depending on how clever the summons are and if they'll fight among themselves or the guardian:

We can probably run past to the anti-magic field, or wear them down at range.

>>32626388
can the summones leave this area. we could just trigger them, fight some. retreat and rest. repeat until they are all gone and the trap is out of power

>>32626422

Dude. Reading comprehension. It doesn't affect Talon or Vad. Only magical beings.

And he has been enfeebled once by a freak accident. He has yet to exhaust all of his Astral MP in one battle yet.

>>32626458
Yeah, the slow and steady seems to have the least likelihood of complications.

If the rush fails, we'd be stuck in a room of still active traps.

>>32626459
>Dude. Reading comprehension. It doesn't affect Talon or Vad.
Dude, this was only stated in the latest post, which was after this argument started.

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>>32626421
Technically, the latter, but there's nothing to stop them from trying to kill you in the twelve hours before they disappear. only the pattern near the crystal is limited in the range he can wander. They won't attack each other.

>>32626430
You, Mal, Gnome and Vad could potentially disable the summon runes. You are the only one who could do it in less than several minutes - the rest would take around five minutes and only Gnome could defend herself during that time. All of you would need to be directly on top of the summon runes to do so.

>>32626458
They can wander around freely. There was a reason why Merce was worried about wandering summons. They won't wander into the deadzone as that would destroy them.

>>32626480
yea, I am going to vote for this approach

>>32626484

>She shrugs. “The only thing I can think of is that you and Vad don’t use sorcery so the deadzone shouldn’t affect you. Getting the crystal out will be hard though – mages used to heavily enchant a hammer to break it free as it’s gripped too tightly to be removed normally.”

Literally the first post of us entering the room.

>>32626511
that was gnome THINKING that it SHOULD not affect us.
not author confirming it. I said "what if"

>>32626480
>>32626497

If the summons are unlimited in range, they could easily follow us out of the room.

A 12 hour battle marathon seems like a more sure fire way to get someone injured than trying to solve this in one-go.

>>32626497

How fast can we get to the deadzone?

Like, can we just do some sexy paratrooper moves and casually launch ourselves there?

Basically: How open is the crystal to Ninja Maneuvers?

>>32626537

I think that we could go with Talon jumping from each one and smashing them as >>32626497
within "several minutes" might actually work pretty well. Have enough of a team otherwise to take the pressure off.

>>32626524
lol

>>32626537
Well we could technically just walk there killing summons one at a time. But I mean, that seems easy. Too easy.

>>32626569
>>32626497


Just to clarify:

The summon runes are located out of the dead zone and every member of our party could fight at full strength around the runes, correct?

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Basically, there's three plans now. All plans disable mundane traps outside the deadzone.

This isn't a vote. I'm asking if there's any more plans.

1. Go for the deadzone with Vad while the rest of the party deals with the summons. Break the crystal free while fighting off pattern and avoiding traps. Win.
2. Fight ten summons at a time, with a wave warping in less than two minutes apart. Then you kill the pattern without any trouble. Win.
3. Destroy the summon circles, before destroying the pattern and winning. Up to four people can do this but you only have three people to cover you aside from those four. only Gnome can defend herself whilst doing so, but you would be the fastest at breaking them.

>>32626545
There is no single straight drop you can make to the bottom floor. You would need to land on at least one platform first, then hit the ground floor, then go for the deadzone area. The second you enter the air next to your current platform the summons will trigger.

With that said, you could probably get to the deadzone quickly if you don't have any bad luck. You're fast and the room isn't that huge. The trick is the regenerating pattern in there.

>>32626617
Correct.

>>32626617

As far as Aspirational has made us aware yes that is correct.

>Numerous platforms, with runes inscribed on them or the walls nearby, stand in the room. At the very bottom is a rune-encrusted door that is glowing with red light. In the centre of that floor, inside an alcove surrounded by wide arches, is a small crystal in some sort of mechanism

Would seem to suggest as much as well. Talon could do it. Smashing shit with his new hammer.

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>>32626637
>3. Destroy the summon circles, before destroying the pattern and winning. Up to four people can do this but you only have three people to cover you aside from those four. only Gnome can defend herself whilst doing so, but you would be the fastest at breaking them.

Correction, four to defend.

Disrupters: Talon, Gnome, Vad, Mal
Defenders: Undine, Sala, Finn, Lynn

>>32626655

That sounds like the best course of action to me, post mundane traps dealt with. Pair everyone off. We'll probably get Finn just because.

>>32626637

We would have to fight the summons while destroying the circles, right?

Couldn't a combination plan of 2 and 3 work.

Kill a wave, destroy the circle, move on.

>>32626637

I like Plan 3 best then. I'm not sure about having 4 teams.

Maybe we could do 3 teams to be safe?

Talon, Undine, Finn
Gnome, Vad
Mal, Sala, Lynn

This way, we can have at least 2 combatants for each team since Gnome can defend herself.

>>32626681

I think that's basically the plan. Defenders deal with summons, Disrupters finish off the rune with a quickness. And repeat as quickly as possible, obviously getting easier over time.

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>>32626681
>We would have to fight the summons while destroying the circles, right?
Yes, but you could do it much faster.

>Kill a wave, destroy the circle, move on.
This requires you to defeat each wave of ten in less than two minutes (1m 40s to be precise) then break a circle. Even Talon takes about two waves to break a circle. Everybody else probably takes three waves of time.

>>32626688
That's also an option. I'll likely call vote between three options, with a follow-up as to the exact split in three.

Also, I like those teams you chose.

>>32626693
In before gnome gets captured by fairies while trying to disable the mechanical traps.

>>32626688

In the interest of Anons who do prefer a slightly safer approach I can agree with this. It'll still get the job done.

I like how this was a speed trial for mages and we've basically said fuck that noise, slow as possible.

Challenge Mal to see who can destroy a ruin first, in the name of sport.

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PLAN VOTE

>1. Go for the deadzone with Vad while the rest of the party deals with the summons. Break the crystal free while fighting off pattern and avoiding traps. Win.
>2. Fight ten summons at a time, with a wave warping in less than two minutes apart. Then you kill the pattern without any trouble. Win.
>3. Destroy the summon circles, before destroying the pattern and winning. Up to four people can do this but you only have four people to cover you aside from those four. Only Gnome can defend herself whilst doing so, but you would be the fastest at breaking them.
>4. Custom

Note that choosing Option 3 will have a follow-up vote as to the exact split of disrupters and defenders.

>>32626772

>3

>>32626743
Of course. You don't get to be emperor by wildly charging in unprepared.

Our risk quota has already been filled by visiting the shitty wizard-trap room in the first place.

>>32626772
>1
1

>>32626772
>3. Destroy the summon circles, before destroying the pattern and winning. Up to four people can do this but you only have four people to cover you aside from those four. Only Gnome can defend herself whilst doing so, but you would be the fastest at breaking them.

People want a slightly safer approach, I think this fits.

>>32626772
3, of course.

Unless we can flood the room with magma.

>>32626772
>3

and proposing >>32626688 as the team distribution

>>32626783

I don't know about that Anon. Risky throw caution to the wind Talon was the norm in the beginning of the quest, and occasionally Risky Talon pops up again. Like a dark shadow of crazy batshit ideas.

>>32626772
It occurs to me that 3 can easily be modified to 2 on the fly.
that is, if someone is getting overwhelmed we could stop breaking a circle to go help them
it delays stuff, but better than letting them be injured.

Also, i just realized that for 2 we could make our own traps, by triggering and then running away, summons chase us into our traps

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>>32626809
Sadly, no. Magma wouldn't do anything about the crystal.

We're going to have to see how I do with the new dorf fort being released right as I come back from Indonesia.

>>32626821
Do you not see the shitty wizard-trap room full of demon summoning portals?

Would you consider even plan 3 to be not risky?

>>32626743
actually, slow as possible is "trigger summons, run away, wait 12 hours for them to run out of power and dissipate on their own".
also, it was a speed trial for teams of 5 magisters... then it was modified from a trial into a murder machine by a nutcase.

>>32626854
Well it would do something about everything else.

Then we pour water in from the ceiling in stages and carve updown stairs from the obsidian to the crystal. Easy.

Or grow a multitile tree down there, if you've got the new version.

>>32626862

Hysterically enough it is the least in my eyes.

>1
Straight gauntlet run. Leave everyone else to deal with it while we fight a self repeating pattern and get a crystal.

>2
Fight spawns endlessly until the magic runs out. Possibly draining us of MP as a group and burning a lot of time and extended battles lead to the higher chance of injury.

3
Strike team focused on defense and quickly knocking out the cause of the issue.

>>32626902
Yes, but then someone's going to roll a crit fail and double the portal's output of tentacle beasts.

>>32626897

Speaking of, what happens if we grow trees in the summoning circles?

Anyone practiced their Accelerated Druidry?

>>32626772
>3. Destroy the summon circles, before destroying the pattern and winning. Up to four people can do this but you only have four people to cover you aside from those four. Only Gnome can defend herself whilst doing so, but you would be the fastest at breaking them.

>>32626925

Oh we all know that's going to happen regardless. Such is life in AEQ.

>>32626981
"Going well so far, alright strike team beta's turn, roll."
>dice
"Well they die. Yeah. Sorry."

>>32626925
well. look at every plan and think. "what is going to happen when someone crit fails this".

also, remember during the first thread when we weren't the first into the room? (that poor guy we sent in first. talon really should have gone in himself.)

>>32627019
We would have gotten slammed.

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Okay, so that's a 3. Follow-up vote. The summon counts are an approximation (and don't take into account the fact that Talon is faster than other disruptors).

>1. Four teams. 54 summons total (3 waves 10, 3 waves 6, 3 waves 2).

T1
Disrupter: Talon
Defender: Finn

T2
Disrupter: Gnome
Defender: Undine

T3
Disrupter: Vad
Defender: Lynn

T4
Disrupter: Mal
Defender: Sala

>2. Three teams. 66 summons total (3 waves 10, 3 waves 7, 3 waves 4, 3 waves 1)

T1
Disrupter: Talon
Defenders: Undine, Finn

T2
Disrupter: Gnome
Defender: Vad

T3
Disrupter: Mal
Defenders: Sala, Lynn

>3. Two teams. 90 summons total. (3 waves 10, 3 waves 8, 3 waves 6, 3 waves 4, 3 waves 2)

T1
Disruptor: Talon
Defenders: Undine, Finn, Lynn

T2
Disruptor: Gnome
Defenders: Mal, Sala, Vad

>>32627019

I like to think that poor bastard is still with us on every single trip we take. And he's so sure he's a red shirt that every time we go to war he sighs and trudges on only to live once more.

>>32627051

>2

>>32627019
1. Talon dies horribly.
2. Everyone gets swarmed quickly, resulting in Talon's horrible death.
3. Tentacle beast output doubled, a now unrecognizable man dies horribly.

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>>32627019
>>32627057
For the fun of it, that one poor mage-knight is Phrace. Yes, that Phrace.

>>32627051
calculating the times
>1
9 waves total = 18 minutes
>2
12 waves total = 24 minutes
>3
15 waves total = 30 minutes

>>32627051
>2. Three teams. 66 summons total (3 waves 10, 3 waves 7, 3 waves 4, 3 waves 1)

I think that sounds manageable. And Talon can easily break off after doing his three if the others are in trouble or quickly finish the forth while the others finish and splat the rest.

>>32627051
>2

>>32627051
>3. Two teams. 90 summons total. (3 waves 10, 3 waves 8, 3 waves 6, 3 waves 4, 3 waves 2)

>>32627090
wow, really? haha
awkward.

>>32627090
Is that a femdom angel temple?

>>32627051
Also 2.

>>32627090

>suddenly remembering all the times we almost killed Phrace

Jesus christ that man is loyal to a fault.

>>32627090

Can Talon in character have no idea about that and we get a scene where Phrace brings it up? We can use the excuse that his helmet covered his face that day and we just forgot the muffled voice.

>>32627111 (You)
the reason i think 3 is best, because only talon and gnome can defend themselves while breaking. the others are at risk of being ganked with a backstab.

Furthermore, 3 means we have 6v10 fight at first
while 2 starts us off with a 5v10 and
and 1 starts us off with 4v10

Things get better over time, but I worry about getting overwhelmed early on

>>32627158
What if we do a progressive pattern:

Start with two teams, split to three teams once the numbers are more manageable.

>>32627155
i am not sure if that makes things better or not

>>32627186
I very much like that idea actually.

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Alright, so we have a plan (3 followed by 2, though I may use the progressive plan if it's supported more shortly). As I'm not sure I can do an hour or two of pure action right now, I'll be doing this room at the very beginning of the next session.

Next thread is about 14 hours from now (assuming I can get up on time) - I'll just use this one if it's still alive. I will be running it until the PoP is claimed, even if it takes 12 hours (though I hope not).

I will also be doing something different next thread (and it may be the only time I do it): the fight will be from a different perspective. Because Talon's job is boring. So you'll be Finn for the room, at least until Talon is done with his job - which also gives me plenty of reason to finish Finn's char sheet.

I'll be around to slowly answer any questions.

>>32627212
actually, no, i changed my mind.
only talon and gnome can defend themselves while smashing.

when the numbers become lower, we might be able to kill them all before the next wave arrives. when that happens the 2 smashers that were fighting before could help smash until the next wave arrives.

>>32627186

Eh, I think 3 teams should hold up fairly well against the numbers.

>>32627230
>As I'm not sure I can do an hour or two of pure action right now
I don't know about others, but I don't mind if we do, say, half an hour of pure actions. pause in mid combat, then continue tomorrow

>>32627230
>Finn

Why do I get the feeling we are going to feel like we are in a horror movie? Also don't be surprised when /tg/ votes to kiss Talon after this.

>>32627259

I'd rather have Aspir be fresh for tomorrow's session honestly.

>>32627230

Progressive wedge seems most sensible.

Go in with a heavy two team spearpoint, split to three, then maybe four as the waves get lighter and depending on what threats unseen we may encounter.

2->3->4 should roughly give us a lower total amount of summons while having a strong presence for the initial waves.

>>32627230
what is your timezone?

>>32627230

>we get to play as Finn

This. Is. Awesome.

Do you maybe have it in you for a few short social scenes?

>>32627278
And then everyone can go back talking about how sexily tactical we looked.

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>>32627280
Australian east coast. It's only 6pm here - the problem is that I've been doing this for ten hours (since I woke up). I had expected to start this scene about two hours ago, but everything took longer than expected.

>>32627259
The problem is that's only like one or two posts. I'd rather start strong and keep pushing on than start weak and have to pick up tomorrow mid-scene.

>>32627308
If there's people still here in about... 30-40 minutes I might do some social stuff if people propose some ideas.

>>32627331
We had fuckin' plans to make!

But do whatever you like really. You'd probably be the best judge of how you feel in this case. There will probably be players regardless.

>>32627331

Social scenes might be fun, but no pressure.

Tarfinn getting manhandled by Talon's harem is always fun.

More interactions with Talon's bros in general would be awesome.

>>32627230
>Playing as finn.

I think this should be fine as long as it isn't a entire thread of doing so.

Also last thread.

> I'm not terribly worried about people guessing this as I literally thought I gave it away in some post-thread discussion (where people instead thought I was referring to Saareg, to my surprise).

I don't remember this. Though I can guess why for some reason Saareg seems popular.

>>32627331

How about Talon sitting in for an official portrait or sculpture of himself to be made while his harem & friends distract him?

Would play well with his growing ego at least

>>32627331

This please, >>32627155. Basically, "Talon do you remember the first time we met?"

This new Phrace thing has me in stitches.

Really anything involving our military guys and their progression. How they feel about the Tourney, stuff like that. Get a feel for morale.

Um...
See how Vad/Nate are doing.
Mal/Finn scene involving Mal trying to teach Finn how2magic since we can't properly.

>>32627414

I can imagine one of Talon's first thought after getting his new armour was, "I am so painting a Griffon on this thing. And getting a painting damn it."

The day we get Talon coins will be hysterical.

>>32627331
About the only social I would really like to see is Salamander/Mal chatting. Or Something with the Phrace/Moss. Maybe a scene where we see the reaction people had to the tourney.

>>32627400

I think the way it was stated it would just be for this particular section, since Talon is just TALON SMASH the entire time, Finn's view will be more interesting for that part.

His description of the summoned beasts will be the best.
>women keep tearing my clothes off
>that monster keeps eyeing me weird
>my tattoos itch

>>32627331
Just for laughs on a 1-10 scale how annoyed would Mercenie be if she realize the full amount Talon got to see of the archmage?

>>32627400

I remember my theory for it being Sareeg's PoP was he is the heavy melee Champion choice, so of course he'd have a city of mages built around it. Squishy squishy mages.

In hindsight yeah Taira makes a lot more sense.

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>>32627400
>I don't remember this. Though I can guess why for some reason Saareg seems popular.
Thread XXV Pt2. I mentioned the PoP belonging to a particular person, fully expecting somebody to pick up that I meant Taira.

>I think this should be fine as long as it isn't a entire thread of doing so.

Nah, just for the portion of the battle that Talon is too busy destroying summon circles for. Then it'll return to Talon's POV.

>>32627466
Probably an 8 or 9. She was probably about a 5 as she knew from Alyce's reaction that you saw more but she doesn't know that Alyce wasn't exactly shy after the initial moment.

>>32627489
of course, this also makes it obvious whose PoPs are whose, except for two (as there's one mystery Champion).

>>32627499
>(as there's one mystery Champion)
Is it a ghost? Or... a kitten?

>she doesn't know that Alyce wasn't exactly shy
Grown women are maybe allowed to not be shy.

>>32627499
wait, the pop we going to claim now belongs to taira? the one who made the pasteries?

Also, this remind me, I meant to actually ask her about the pop and forgot

>>32627499
> fully expecting somebody to pick up that I meant Taira.

I honestly was thinking Taira the entire time. Just because I was pretty sure Saareg would be where the archangels are. So I was thinking either Ren or her. I thought it was possible Saareg was there but unlikely.

>Probably an 8 or 9. She was probably about a 5 as she knew from Alyce's reaction that you saw more but she doesn't know that Alyce wasn't exactly shy after the initial moment.

Dear lord that would be perfect to bring up one day.

>>32627543
It's not bound to her. More that POP natural tendency to let attune to strong beings. At least I don't think it's bound to her. She may have done that though I find it unlikely.

>>32627499

Been awhile since we've heard about the mystery champion.

Also yeah given it's pretty obvious who Sareeg serves now filling in the blanks for the rest of the PoPs out of character are relatively easy. Ren/Mystery are the only possibilities.

>>32627569
You know, this always comes off as Post Office Protocol.

>>32627543
>taira

You know the moment Talon notices 9 Tails I just see him getting on his knees and pretty much saying he has found paradise on earth.

>>32627569
The real question is, what can we do with it?
and
Is touching it like touching her? Sexually.

>>32627631

>inb4 her "meeting us later" is her pushing our shit in to defend her PoP

Talon will be so conflicted.

>>32627631
"These tails... They're so fluffffyyyyy!"
Only weeping was heard subsequently.

So who else is excited for rank 2 UndineI heavily assume we'll be binding it to her to wreck some shop and make her sisters jealous?

>>32627640

See Risa's tails from HQR for ideas

>>32627665

Truly the Alliance has no idea how good of a deal they got when they signed this treaty with Talon. To betray them is betray the beautiful fluffytails, sheer blasphemy.

>>32627682
"High Quality Revolution"?

>>32627640
>Like touching her? Sexually

Considering how Ren's sis reacted to a slight stroke pretty much.

Though if we get some time alone without anything serious going on we should ask her what that one body pose Ren's sister keeps using is. If we tell Vad he will probably mention it to her at some point. While the 9 tails doesn't seem to care.

>>32627699

Hollow Quest Redux

>>32627670
>Rank two

Depending on how she levels she may be stronger then that.

>>32627701

So you're saying... we just need some time alone with the PoP, and our fingers?

>>32627705
>Hollow quest Redux

Risa is the only fluffy I would never let anywhere near my dick. She'd probably turn her mouth into needles or some shit.

>>32627721
Failure. Always read that as tails now. Though if we could I would die laughing.

>>32627721

No no, I believe that other Anon thought you were talking about her Tails.

The PoP itself doesn't, as far as we are aware, hold that level of connection.

>>32627711

The assumption is since it takes 4 PoPs to bring her to full power she'll level as we gain them. I also misspoke, this will be Rank 1/4 once binded.

>>32627732

>Not touching the Fluffy God of Hedonistic Genocide

Might as well go out with a bang

>>32627721
>>32627754
>>32627743

Now reading it as "the Prince of Persia" so that it does in fact work.

>>32627756
Are we talking about a kitsune succubus hybrid who drains people with fluffiness?

>>32627774
God damn it. Each time someone brings up a different reading I make up another. So now I'm reading it as Pop as in Pop music.

>>32627754

>Anon thought you were talking about her Tails.

Yeah I noticed someone quoted me so I just responded to the closest post I made. That and I have tails on the brain right now.

>>32627754

Huh both Sala and Gnome are 2/5, as typical of a summon. So that places them at 40 percent power.

While Undine when binded will be 1/4 and at 25 percent.

I know her Champion status makes her different but I've never noticed her struggling to keep up with her sisters. I assume the Source gives her X% of bonus to her power. As to how much is a mystery.

>>32627533
i gotta admit, i was surprised by alyce being 60

>>32627822
More like a insane fluffy ghost who has no idea what is normal sexuality gets a kick out of murder and everything else you can think of. and tends to change her body into abomination forms that gave people nightmares.

>>32627847

I was actually wondering about her age myself. Since it's obvious she was around for the majority of Undine's life that must have placed her in her ~50s. So it makes sense, I just hadn't ever connected those dots.

>>32627847
Poor Talon. All his interests are Grandmas. Other then Sarah but Sarah is bet grill anyway.

>>32627754
>The assumption is since it takes 4 PoPs to bring her to full power she'll level as we gain them. I also misspoke, this will be Rank 1/4 once binded.
i still argue that source counts as one pop.
so with 1/4 pops bound she is at level 2/5

>>32627822

The fluffy tails can change to angelic steel or channel energy to blow itself and everyone around it into little bits.

Said fluffy tails can also regenerate and passively poisons everything around it, driving them to madness.

>>32627864
>I was wondering about her age
>The lorebins mentioned in like in thread 1

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>>32627847
Mages tend to be old. Most grand magisters are in their sixties and seventies at the youngest. Most talented mages would make magister in their late thirties (Mal is an exception as he's talented - Taren and Alyce were the same) and there's a very long step to get the 'grand' part.

>>32627701
>Though if we get some time alone without anything serious going on we should ask her what that one body pose Ren's sister keeps using is.
This is one of those things I remember during serious scenes but not during lighter scenes, and then nobody brings it up. It's especially annoying as it's relatively important.

You know what, though I'm struggling a bit to write, I'm going to do this Tsucchi scene as it matters. I'll make a content post in 20-30 minutes.

>>32627867
lynn is young too

>>32627849
So you're saying she's a sexier version of Alma? On the upside, if you suddenly get fluffy tailed to death and eaten, there's a chance you can be part of the fluffy tails themselves. In spirit.

>>32627884

They mentioned Alyce's age? Must have forgotten.

>>32627873
Depends on how it is measured. Actually that's a question I need to ask since it was mentioned that Undine would get stronger faster.

>>32627701
>Though if we get some time alone without anything serious going on we should ask her what that one body pose Ren's sister keeps using is
I have no idea what you are talking about

>>32627894
Something something "Alyce is powerful for her relatively young age of 60." though that might have been a Q and A.

>>32627890
> I'm going to do this Tsucchi scene as it matters.

Wonder who we are going to ask? Just asking directly seems blunt and asking Vad seems off.

>>32627896
what is actually happening is that undines gets more mana to operate at closer to her true power.
We call it level up, but really its more of a "be less starved". That is why there is a cap. when the cap is reached it means the elemental in question has enough mana to operate at 100% of her real power. At that point she can still levelup, but very slowly via traditional means (research, combat, training, etc) and the effects are much more subtle.

>>32627875

You know honestly, if you're in good with Slaanesh, it doesn't seem that problematic. "Sanity is for the weak" and all that.

Getting torture sexghosted with fluffiness seems like a fine way to improve your masochism rating. And if you die, you can maybe improve your 'spirituality' rating too.

>>32627904
>The average anon in this quest.

Tsucchi keeps doing a body pose that Talon has no bloody idea what it is. Just that it doesn't seem to be what his foxy waifu explained and no one seems to have brought it up to anybody.

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>>32627896
0/4 PoP equals level 1 Gnome/Sala. Every extra PoP equals a level of Gnome/Sala (so 1/4 PoP will make her equal to Gnome/Sala's current level).

Undine gets more powerful faster because she's not limited to Talon's power, you merely need to claim additional PoPs for her.

>>32627919
>Wonder who we are going to ask? Just asking directly seems blunt and asking Vad seems off.
It was going to be an indirect Tsucchi question involving Finn.

>Something something "Alyce is powerful for her relatively young age of 60." though that might have been a Q and A.
It's mentioned in Q&A that she was in her forties when she made grand magister (about 10-15 years ago). It was mentioned IC that she was likely in her sixties, which is Talon thinks she's in her sixties.

>>32627928
>If you die

You're going to die. Horribly by a fluffy Goddess. Risa is dangerous to herself let alone her allies.

>>32627904

Anon you need to talk to more women.

She does an odd pose with her tails that Talon cannot for the life of him figure out. In between seductive and business.

>>32627958
>which is Talon thinks she's in her sixties
She's actually a Time Wizard, and is technically 700, though still suffering the common daily problems of a modern highschool existence.

>>32627928

Or you might get Scarsborough Fair'd instead

>>32627976
Well there you go, excellent way to improve your Spectrality Experience.

And odds are you won't have a refractory period when technically dead!

You can please your fluffy mistress forever, and alert her to all the spicy fried tofu in the area.

>>32628023
After you go though about 10-20 years of wondering around mexico. Yeah probably.

>>32627997

An orgy with Sage, Rosmary, and Thyme? Or a visit with a cute trap version of Hercules?

>>32628053

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/26075231/#p26083582

Ctrl-F Are you going to Scarborough Fair? and read from there if you'd like

Spoilers since off-topic

>>32628049
It's fine, just possess some axolotls and have them pose in acrobatic forms for the fluffy empress's entertainment.

>>32628089
I don't know why but I love this entire conversation and how spectacularly we are derailed right now.

>>32628084
Ahh, it was a visit with cute trap Hercules, apparently on a quest to defeat gravity! Should be decently easy with super-strength.

I'm so confused.

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>Tsucchi scene

It’s the day before you’re due to head to Ahm, and one day after Tsucchi taught you to guard your power. You’re in the same room as before, talking quietly with her while Finn watches. You take a brief break and grab some food from the table your squire sits at. He watches Tsucchi’s tails flutter about, clearly mesmerised by their movement. Truly he is following in your footsteps.

Then he does something unexpected.

“Lady Tsucchi, you did something weird with your tails yesterday,” Finn says, watching her with a frown. “When you were talking to Talon, you suddenly lowered them all and your ears. Do the movements of your tails and ears mean something I don’t know?”

Tsucchi looks a little surprised at the question, then gives you a small smile. “You didn’t teach him the protocols and behaviours of foxes?”

“It didn’t seem my place,” you say carefully, hoping that she’ll answer his question in more detail. “Maybe you should explain them, at least at a basic level.”

Tsucchi gives Finn a curious look, and gets it returned with interest. Smiling lightly, she steps up close to him and gives him some simple lessons.

“This,” she says, sticking her tails and ears bolt upright, “indicates that a fox is wary and alert. It’s a sign of danger and warning – either for friends to watch themselves or for enemies to step back.

“On the other hand,” she says, lowering her tails but not her ears, which you only notice now, “this means that a fox does not wish to fight. It’s a peaceful gesture.”

>continued

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>>32628149
Finn nods several times. “So you were showing Talon you didn’t mean offense when talking to him?”

“That was a different pose. I’ll get to it in a second. This pose,” she says, fanning her tails as widely as possible while keeping her ears flat against her head, “is the next best thing to a mating call. It’s a way for a fox to signal interest in a partner.

“It’s refused by this,” she continues, snapping her tails closed and sticking her ears up in a pose that is the exact opposite. “Those are pretty much all of the poses that the foxes have, though there are a few odd ones that get created from time to time.”

“Like the one you used earlier,” Finn says, not letting go of the bone even as Tsucchi lets her tails relax into a more natural posture.

Grimacing slightly, Tsucchi gives you a sidelong glance.

“Not necessarily. That pose is merely rare. When a fox does this,” she says, laying her tails low and motionless as she presses her ears flat against her head, “it’s a sign of complete subservience. Of surrender.”

You stare at Tsucchi as she finishes explaining the strange posture she has repeatedly assumed towards you. It wasn’t a peaceful gesture, or even just a ‘I don’t mean offense’. It was literally a ‘If you don’t like what I’m about to say or do, please feel free to express your displeasure.’ Something harsh grates together inside your head at that knowledge. You’re disturbed and angry and you’re not sure how well you can control it.

[DC14 Temper]

Rolled 4

>>32628157
Here we go

Rolled 12

>>32628157
Man stations!

Rolled 20

>>32628157

Comedy roll?

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>>32628170

Rolled 15

>>32628157

Oh fuck us. We are going to roll a NAT 1 NIGGAS. ;_;

>>32628170

I... Huh. Should have done combat tonight.

Rolled 1

>>32628170

Of all the times to roll a Nat 20

>>32628157
>>32628170

Looks like we are completely fine with submissive sexyfluff foxes.

Rolled 4

>>32628170
Oh my fucking god. I love you anon. Time to astral away our rage.

>>32628170
>>32628184

The dice gods have a sense of humor apparently

>>32628170

>I've never been less mad in my life: The Roll

Quality.

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>>32628188
I know I am.

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>>32628170
And Talon was never mad again

Rolled 6

>>32628170
>>32628179
>>32628184

Luckily even without the 20 we would have still passed.

>>32628170

I have the best feeling this is the opposite of what Aspirational expected to happen and he's just staring at the screen.

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>>32628218
How I see his face every time something like this happens.

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>>32628157
>>32628170
And then Talon started planning
>Operation Harem Addition: Fluffy Tails?

>>32628157
>You’re disturbed and angry
i am actually just confused

Rolled 6

>>32628218
By this point I think he is pretty used to this happening. Remember the dragon? All this means is we are going to crit fail every roll with the summons today.

>>32628263
Of course. Fluffy tails make excellent pillows.

Rolled 5

>>32628267
I get the feeling whatever is giving Talon astral power is acting up. He did call them corrupter and you don't normally feel that good when you hear there is a corrupter being subservient to you.

>>32628272

We also dominated Volantis fight, which was supposed to be one of the hardest fights in Taour Arc. Roll a Nat 20, pass every DC, and never gave him a chance to regenerate.

>>32628278
>>32628263
and she does have enough to share with everyone....

>>32628272

Those 2 Nat 20s were pretty glorious and so appropriate as plot rolls, we haven't had one of those in awhile.

I think my favorite was us wrecking Volante without missing a single damn roll.

>>32628272
It's fine, that just means he'll die horribly.
Probably not as bad as displeasing a purveyor of fluffy tails in this case.

>>32628300

We did start the Blackwater fight with a Nat 20 although things quickly went downhill from there.

>>32628287
but it said they are assimilated ex corruptors who now are on your side. and it never expressed anger towards them before.

I think it is something else. maybe a "majestic being lowering herself" or some such

>>32628294
>Get fluffy tails
>Have our other girls join us in gently caressing them sensually, one fluffy tail per person.
>"Poor" fluffy tails

>>32628316
>Massive fox tailgasms.
>Excellent pillow after exhausting.
>Fluffy.

Seems fine.

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>Exceptional success

Anger boils up within you. Red hot rage. Tsucchi had always been strong and unafraid to voice things that might have greatly troubled you – had greatly troubled you. You had assumed she’d been like Gnome and Undine, who had faith in you not to react adversely. It hurt you, in a way you hadn’t expected and to a degree that angered you further, to find out that every time she had taken that step she had felt the need to offer her complete non-resistance.

You contain the anger, though, bottling it away in a place you didn’t know you had. You hear Tsucchi telling Finn to leave the room, clearly reading the atmosphere better than your squire. You open your eyes to see her standing in front of you, looking concerned. You see she’s still maintaining that same posture. She opens her mouth and says something but all you understand is her body language which is reading ‘Please hurt me if you want to.’

>continued

Rolled 18

>>32628316
He said assimilated. By that same token I don't think it would like being told this. Though I mainly get that idea from.

>Something harsh grates together inside your head at that knowledge

Talon should be used to controlling himself and even if he is overwhelmed by something I don't think it would be a check as high as DC 14. Especially not over something as simple as an ambassador showing submissiveness.

I could be mis reading but I get the feeling something is going on here.

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>>32628342
Your anger roils around in that strange place, and you feel tinges of that strange insanity from past experiences. This whole sequence is wrong. Very wrong.

“Why, Tsucchi?” you ask, your voice rough.

There’s a painful silence, a loud buzzing running through the room that you know is completely in your head, as you look directly at Tsucchi. She at least has the grace to look away from your gaze, even if she doesn’t take up a better posture.

“Because I had assumed that a man of your strength and pride would feel better if he knew that a fox who could kill him in a moment was willing to be subservient,” she says quietly.

You let out a long breath, your anger still there but less potent. A play to your pride, then, not a misjudgement of your character to such a harsh degree.

“I have to ask – was I so wrong? Are you upset that you have missed opportunities or are you upset for another reason? Or is it something else entirely?” she asks, meeting your gaze now, if uncertainly.

Your anger is held at bay, and you feel you can respond rationally without strange urges blasting away your mind. You…

>Write-in response

>>32628353
Proposition her.

Rolled 13

>>32628353
>strange urges blasting away your mind

Yeah what the hell is going on here?

Anyway I say we take a deep breath and say something around "I'm fine. Just wasn't expecting that."

>>32628353

Correct her assumptions, assure her that she can be honest and straightforward with you without any consequences.

She's not a servant, she's an ally and friend.

More importantly you are not a tyrant that demands subservient and absolute loyalty from your friends.

>>32628353

I had to read that a couple of times to understand exactly why Talon was mad, though I do suspect something is up that is PLOT~ related but Aspirational is loathe to go into it at this hour.

I'd imagine Talon isn't mad for missed opportunities to pretty much say no fuck off.

Borderline something else entirely. Isn't her fault, she's playing to the man that wants his bust on coinage, had every right to especially when dealing with a treaty for her people.

Was she scared that if she didn't pay lip(tail?)service to our pride it wouldn't have worked?

>>32628415
Maybe he believed that she believed she had to act all submissive around him because he would react poorly to her speaking plainly, thusly perhaps implying that he was an unreasonable person.

Rolled 8

>>32628353
>>32628342
>says something but all you understand is her body language which is reading ‘Please hurt me if you want to.’

Yep. Whatever is Talons nature really doesn't like fluffies. Reading a submission signal as that.

>>32628353
Tsucchi, we have an alliance we are supposed to be partners, friends. We are supposed to trust each other, I need to know I can trust you to tell me anything regardless if I want to hear it or not. You and your people are my people now, you aren't just servants and I won't just cast you or them out because you tell me something I don't like.

>>32628353

I'm wondering if Tsucchi is perceiving us differently, just be nature of being a higher level fox. She senses something else in Talon's being that the others do not and she is attempting to keep that at bay, not Talon the man.

>Do you really think I am so prideful as to need you to pay me lipservice? Is it not enough that I desired to learn how to prevent you from killing me with the snap of a tail? Does that not show I understand I still must be humble with things I do not completely understand?

>>32628398
>More importantly you are not a tyrant that demands subservient and absolute loyalty from your friends.
not a tyrant in general, not just not a tyrant to his friends

>>32628467
that is an interesting thought.

Rolled 14

Whats weird there is that signal is just her saying he can react in anyway and she has already threatened to leave her vamp research out of annoyance. So it isn't like she isn't brutally honest.

So why is Talon here who is a fan of that due to wanting to be an emperor suddenly so pissed off? It's honestly not a big deal given the circumstances.

>>32628353
>Are you upset that you have missed opportunities
wait, what?
what does she mean by that? missed opportunities to do what?

>>32628468
Unless, you know, they like that sort of thing. Sexually.

Submissive foxes.

>>32628468
>tyrant
>4. an absolute ruler, especially one in ancient Greece or Sicily.

>>32628487
Are you really this dense.

>>32628353
OOC, I don't know how to respond because i am not sure what is going on.

>>32628491
>>32628493
I am just having trouble believing that this is what she meant

>>32628468

Well, yes, under both definitions of tyrant. I just wanted to emphasize that she should be considered a friend.

>>32628487

Either, "Take me now I am submitting to you." Sexually.

or "Hit me, tell me I'm wrong, throw me out, that is your right." Business.

>>32628504
She might not have meant that.

But we know she really does mean that. In reality.

She's probably quite lonely. And foxlike.

>>32628353
Honestly yeah I think we're upset that she thinks that a close ally such as her needs to show subservience to be spared our wrath.

Which is why I think we shouldn't spare the rod at this occasion. You know. To avoid spoiling her.

>>32628520
Her brother seems to be pretty protective of her, you might be on to something...

Honestly I too am not sure whats up. I took a shot at it but, not sure if I'm reading things right.

>>32628353
>Are you upset that you have missed opportunities

if she means this how I think she means it. I'm voting we say something like.

"Well now that was unexpected. I'm more angry at someone able to kill me doing such a thing. My pride and all works against me sometimes."

>>32628513
those two are completely different things though

>>32628504

I'm clearly too tired because I'm missing all the subtext of this conversation.

The only thing I got was:

>Tsucchi was adopting a sign of complete subservience to Talon
>Talon freaks out more than expected perhaps because of something in his nature
>He's hurt because she thought that she needed to be subservient to appease his ego

Missed opportunities is going over my head entirely

>>32628539

But both can be discerned from being subservient to a person. That's the point.

>>32628353

"I figured you considered me unreasonable, and thus felt you had to be fully deferent, unable to speak what you wished. That is not the case, feel free to tell me what you believe to be true."

"Unless you were propositioning me and I missed it? You can ask more explicitly about that too."

>>32628544
some people are claiming that what she meant by missed opportunities is that talon is lamenting not exploiting the "subservience" thing for sex.
others are arguing that there is no way that this is what she meant.
someone then suggested that maybe she is secretly into BDSM

>>32628544
sex anon, she was asking if Talon was upset for not taking advantage of her willingly being submissive by sleeping with her because she seems to have adopted the mindset that he will sleep with anything thats pretty and moves like everyone else apparently. i'm sorry but that would've taken you all night at this rate

>>32628564
>someone then suggested that maybe she is secretly into BDSM

There's no maybe about that one. Have you played Monster Girl Quest?

Those tails.

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“It’s nothing like that. My response just then was… something else,” you say gruffly, bringing your thoughts back under control. “Do you really think I’m like that, Tsucchi? That you would need to show subservience to me so openly?”

“I assumed it couldn’t hurt,” she says, giving you an odd look as you talk much more rationally. “From what I can tell, Gnome appears to almost define the idea. She might not show it so explicitly, but she’s clearly explicit. I didn’t wish to take any chances, and if one of your companions had done well enough with it I assumed it couldn’t be too problematic for you. Clearly I was wrong, given how close you were to exploding.”

You rub the bridge of your nose. “Not… completely. That was something else, like I said. You were acting differently than I had assumed and that triggered something. I’d like to say primal but it was too foreign a feeling to be that. It was like what we discussed yesterday.”

A sharp gaze drilled into you, and you saw that Tsucchi was waving her tails about slowly. Then she relaxed, her tails taking on a normal posture as she says, “Well, whatever it was seems to be gone now. Judging from what you said and your reactions otherwise, the problem wasn’t that I was acting subservient but that you hadn’t expected it. Your world was shaken and the thing inside you reacted poorly… correct?”

>continued

>>32628564
>>32628577

Yeah, it's way too late for me now. This just flew over my head the first few times I read it.

It makes sense in retrospect.

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>>32628588
“Pretty much,” you say, before looking at her more closely. “You’re acting considerably more normal now. You were rather tense earlier.”

“I wasn’t sure if you were going to lash out at me,” she says with a huff. “Honestly, you’ve been so reasonable and sharp in all other matters I assumed you picked up on the symbolism. Don’t tell me you actually thought I was showing subservience to you?”

You blink and look a little bashful. You earnt a little laugh at that.

“I wanted a deal between us. I also wasn’t afraid if you were going to… push things a little further. Hence a symbolic gesture – you would either ignore it with grace or take it for that little bit to seal the deal. If you went even further, I’d simply kill you – or my brother would,” she finishes sharply, eyeing you carefully.

You wave the threat off. “And instead I completely misread it and things nearly went off the rails because I’m a monster under my skin… or something. In any case, just act like yourself, Tsucchi.”

“Oh, but what if part of acting like myself is playing out other’s beliefs?” she says with a smile.

You sigh and take a seat. Tsucchi takes one next to you and pulls a plate of meat puffs close.

>Anything to say to Tsucchi before I close for the night? I'm willing to continue this scene for longer if people have things to bring up.

>>32628599
>“Oh, but what if part of acting like myself is playing out other’s beliefs?” she says with a smile.

"Please simply be honest with me. That would seem to be better than pretense."

>>32628599
>"One of these days I should be more open for bait."

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And, hot damn, that was a lot of confusion for a small scene. I didn't think things would be this confusing for people, though I suppose the combination of the strange thoughts, Tsucchi's usual double-edged attitude and the open interpretation of certain language piled up a bit. Or I'm just terrible at expressing things properly.

Basically, Tsucchi showed Talon that she was acting submissive every time she was going to say something he might not like. Talon (or the 'other' inside him) interpreted that as much more than it actually was.

The 'other' blew its stack because things were much different than it expected, or so the theory goes. Talon controlled it but Tsucchi still thought he was furious. She then basically left the door wide-open for Talon to say he wanted to have sex with her.

Talon held off and she then realised what happened and things went back to normal. Basically, she was playing to Talon's pride and womanising not realising Talon was completely oblivious to what she really meant.

>>32628599
Aww, it was only symbolic. Now we'll never get a prostrating foxgirl for ourselves.

And wait, how far is exactly too far at the moment? Because I think we should totally ask her out for a private dinner.

>>32628588
Oh, wary tailwaiving eh?

Maybe Talon has a dark naruto spirit bonded to his poor little body, and she's worried about it escaping.

Could always ask about that!

>>32628599
>Conclusion: Talon cray

I wonder if she'd know how we managed to stave off that anger so efficiently, that little pocket we opened up in our minds was new.

What would have happened if we didn't make that roll?

>>32628638
I think it was mainly people who didn't notice something was off about Talon for a second there. Though Tsschi did make it slightly confusing given her subtext+Talon being not in his right mind to read it.

>>32628599
>If you went even further, I’d simply kill you – or my brother would
you know, i haven't been taking it seriously. but everyone has been saying how her brother will kill us if we seduce her.

is this is like, some thing about unwed female foxes being owned by their brother/father/nearest male relative or some such?

>>32628638
For some reason I imagined this as some strange Australian mating ritual where people avoid propositioning each other, and instead take vague body-language commenting on each other's self-esteem.

>>32628649
I don't dare ask what a Nat 1 would have done. Talon was about to explode with a 20. I imagine a nat 1 he would full on black out.

>>32628638
>Basically, she was playing to Talon's pride and womanising not realising Talon was completely oblivious to what she really meant.

Well, I guess it had to happen to a harem protagonist one way or another

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>>32628649
It would have been a more comedic angry scene. Something like this:

"I am angry about X!" shouts Talon.

"Well, actually I did Y - X was just an act," says Tsucchi.

"I don't care about Y. I'm angry about X!" repeats Talon.

"I never did X, Talon. What are you so angry about?" says Tsucchi.

"I am angry about X!" shouts Talon.

Dramfail would have been a tad bit more serious, but would likely have ended peacably - even though Talon would likely be a bit more roughed up and the sexual undertones would have been a tad more overt.

>>32628667
wut

I basically took a leaf out of the book of certain birds, as fox tails remind me a bit of plumage.

>>32628662
I am going to have Talon ask her this. Because it might be amusing and enlightening.

>>32628638
So shes cool with banging but she will kill us after? She like a black widow or something?

>>32628685
Natural 1: Talon prematurely ejaculates in his pants.
Tsucchi assumes he was frustrated and inadequate.
She tells everyone while constantly making the submission pose.

>>32628693
>sexual undertones would have been a tad more overt.

Not sure how this would work. The above was already pretty overt considering she just flat out said so pretty much.

>>32628693

>I AM MAD. MAD ABOUT FOXES.

So Talon would have still come out looking crazy as fuck.

I liked the 20 then, gave us some hints towards the "Other" as he shall become known.

>>32628693
>I am going to have Talon ask her this. Because it might be amusing and enlightening.
great :)
ask while she is drinking something.

>>32628715
He already is pretty crazy as fuck sometimes.

>>32628693
>I basically took a leaf out of the book of certain birds, as fox tails remind me a bit of plumage.
No, perhaps that they make vaguely sexual missed propositions which instead comment on how well each person may take implications about their man or woman-hood.

>>32628693
I believe >>32628667 was making a joke about australian people. since you said you are from australia. He was saying the weird stuff and misunderstanding is because most of us are not australian so we don't get those unique to australia references

>>32628761
No, I was actually describing that I imagined this scene occurred as the result of millions of years of diversified evolution and speciation resulting in a mating ritual that instead of talking about mating resulted in strange body language that asked people how they would feel if they were to talk about mating and personal capabilities.

The end result being that after nobody was really sure what was going on, they figured out that they should perhaps try have dinner together and see how it goes.

>>32628761

As someone who lived in Melbourne for 6 years of his life I haven't seen one really obvious Australian reference outside of the continent being in the same hemisphere and the seasons . Hell Aspirational doesn't even use any slang.

I can't stop imagining everyone with an over the top Australian accent though.

>>32628798
>resulting in a mating ritual that instead of talking about mating resulted in strange body language
uh, that is how REAL mating works for humans
asking things like "can I kiss you" shows terminal failure to read social situations on your part (making you an undersireable mate) and ruins the mood.
instead, you need to communicate entirely nonverbally.
It is important to note that "surprise kiss" is NEVER ok. instead you non verbally yell it so to speak, over exaggerated and giving plenty of time for your prospective partner to refuse nonverbally. (as long as they are gentle about their nonverbal refusal you still have a chance)
Or of course, accept it non verbally.

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>>32628699
No, that was more a reference to possible use of violence.

>>32628711
Yeah, but it was in words. This would have been slightly more physical.

>Tsucchi stuff
“You keep saying that Ren will hurt me or kill me if I do anything to you. Vad says the same thing. Is this some strange cultural thing with foxes?” you ask as you drank some of the ale in front of you.

Tsucchi shakes her head, her face bearing a slightly annoyed expression. “That’s just Ren. He’s possessive – like you are about Caitlyn towards Vadoric.”

“I’m sleeping with Lynn. Unless you have something to tell me, Tsucchi,” you say glibly.

She gives you a cross look as she takes the last meat puff. “No. I was more talking about the behaviour in general, not the reasoning behind it. Your attitude towards Caitlyn is probably for the better – I think she gets the wrong idea from watching you sometimes.

“Ren simply doesn’t understand that I’m my own woman and can take care of myself,” Tsucchi says. “Maybe he sometimes makes unkind comparisons about my possible future and some of the women he beds. Which isn’t exactly kind, though given his mindset I can’t blame him.”

“Trouble with women?” you ask.

“In general,” she answers. “Growing up as the most powerful fox in history was a problem for him – it alienated him a bit. I had the same issues, but he managed to smooth them over somewhat because I at least had him.”

“The most powerful? That seems extreme," you say. “Wasn’t there a nine-tailed fox?”

>continued

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>>32628833
“Yes, but she took much longer to get so many tails,” she answers. “Ren’s only four hundred and is probably close to getting his ninth tail, or so he says. Taira was more than seven hundred before got her ninth tail.”

“She’s old?”

“Supposedly a thousand years old. She used to hint that she knew our origins which irritated Ren to no end,” she answers.

“Huh. One thousand. That makes her older than Gnome. And if I ever meet her, I should make sure I don’t make that comparison,” you say, with a sudden realisation.

“The best part of being around you, Talon, is that I don’t feel all that old,” Tsucchi says with a slight laugh.

>Anyway, I’m going to finish here.

Next thread in slightly less than 12 hours.

>>32628833
>Yeah, but it was in words. This would have been slightly more physical.

Fuck. I could have read foxy waifu tossing Talon into a wall after things go horribly wrong.

>>32628833
>Your attitude towards Caitlyn is probably for the better – I think she gets the wrong idea from watching you sometimes.
can someone explain this to me?

>>32628846
Thanks for the run Aspie

>>32628831
No, you don't understand. It's not even related to conventional flirting. It's body language that asks how the person would feel about conventional body language in such a way that it's not obvious if the person really intends to flirt or if they're implying you wouldn't take any overt implications well due to your pride.

Although as a side point, you should just ask girls you like on a date. All that wishy-washy "is she looking at me the right way" is probably just going to result in you not getting any.

>>32628846
heh, prophetic. we met taira.

thanks for the run aspir. see you today

>>32628881

She wants all the fluffy to herself

>>32628881
>We bang many many women and love fluffy.
>Caitlyn is impressionable.
>Ergo.

>>32628881
You perhaps a newbie? Might want to hit the archives.

>>32628890
>Although as a side point, you should just ask girls you like on a date.
asking out for a date is different from asking for a kiss

>>32628909
so, caitlyn is learning that polyamory is good and ... that is somehow the wrong idea?

>>32628890
>Doing it the pleb way
>Not tossing money at her like the bourgeoisie

>>32628922
I've heard some very good "may I please kiss you mistress" runs.

Are you talking about that ultra-cliche "you'll know the right time to kiss her" stuff?
Man, you can just ask a girl if she wants to make out and cuddle.
All that repressive silent back and forth is really just a Victorian holdover.

Like, have you not seen a girl ask "do you want me?" or "do you want to taste my lips?"
It's pretty hot.

>>32628938
Considering Talon is oh so very jealous. Yes.

>>32628938

Given Talon fiercely refuses to share, kind of yes.

Basically it's a situation where she see's our relationship as only sex. As it honestly is, and in her mind since we have multiples, why can't she?

It's complicated, and likely something that'll need addressed at some point as loathe as I am to do so, because >dragongirl votes

>>32628938
Talon doesn't like to share with men.

>>32628938

It is if you think Lynn acquiring her own harem of fluffy tails and elven boytoys is a bad thing

I don't personally

>>32628956
>Are you talking about that ultra-cliche "you'll know the right time to kiss her" stuff?
uh, what?
which part of "initiaite it via body language, give her a chance to refuse via body language, and if she doesn't go for it" did you not understand?

>>32628960
if she sees it as only sex then we fucked up.
and we need to fix this

>>32629000

How so? Talon has made no moves within character to make any of his relations appear more than "just sex". Assumptions have been made by Sarah and likely Undine. But otherwise it has never been stated otherwise.

If this is a case of muh waifu doesn't love me, for fucks sake let's not go down that road with this quest. The harem set up is working.

>>32628985
Well like you're talking about it as if that's the only way to do things. I've asked girls if they would like a kiss. You can be verbally suave.

Honestly, it's often better to just put your interest out in the open. You should be getting to know your lover well enough that you can talk honestly.

>>32628890
>Man, you can just ask a girl if she wants to make out and cuddle.

All you're going to hear afterwards is how unromantic you are for 3 days straight. Unless you're lucky enough to have an unhinged one. Then she'll probably tackle you problem is when she wakes up at night screaming that God was talking to her. Then she gets out the butcher knives.

>>32629023
yea. i mean heck, some women you can just say "wanna fuck?" and they say "ok". but usually you want to make things romantic.

>>32629023
>is how unromantic you are

See, you should probably choose women who are more independent.
What you're talking about is maybe only one style of Western culture, steeped in female oppression and patriarchy at that.
If you're on more equal terms with your woman, she can initiate stuff, and you can ask her stuff.

>>32627331
Heading out to the city tonight Asp? Assuming you live in Syd of Melb that is...

>>32629066
>Patriachy and oppression
no.
a man can impregnate multiple women a day
while a woman risks her life with every pregnancy (1% chance to be ectopic. of which 50% cause death and the other 50% miscarriage that results in scarring, complicating future pregnancies), bone depletion (recycle her own bones to build the fetus), risk of death from complications at childbirth, risk of death from infection after childbirth, risk of various complications, even if everything goes well she can only have so many kids in her life.

A woman is thus instinctively significantly more interested in vetting mate quality.

>>32629066
Trust me on this one bro. You can try for the independent but then all your going to get is property theft and her bitching to everyone about you before moving off to some drug dealer for money.

The words independent women today are just a code word for "Women who don't care about anything but themselves and will ask you for everything they can before bailing then bitching that your curtailing their Independence for wondering where they hell they are at at midnight."

And that would be the average women around me in a nutshell.

>>32629138
>>32629122
It's kind of strange to see misogyny still so prevalent here.
But for your information, Western culture did previously, and does still in large part, have an issue with women being assertive, stating sexual availability, and holding power.
Sexual discussion is a cultural taboo, not a generally 'human' thing.

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>>32629094
There's really only one city in the country to live in for my line of work (though you can find it elsewhere with limited career options) and it has a pretty dead nightlife.

>Tarfinn's char sheet

Name: Tarfinn (alias Finn Tarnn)
Class: Ranger
Title: Squire
Magic Type: (Imbued) Sorcerous
Equipment: Scimitar, light armour, longbow

STATS

Strength [2]
Endurance [5]
Speed [3]
Intelligence [3]
Magic [5]
Resistance [5]
Charisma [2]

SKILLS

Weaponry I –proficiency in a large variety of weapons.
Archery II – great proficiency at archery using all types of bows and crossbows
Martial Arts I – proficiency in a variety of martial arts and in combining them.
Battlefield Basics I – proficiency in all general battlefield skills (dodging, blocking etc).
Imbued Sorcery II – ability utilise the sorcerous tattoos imbued into your body. This enables you to increase or decrease the effects of otherwise passive abilities as well as mitigate negative effects if you overuse them.

>continued

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>>32629192
ABILITIES

(PASSIVE) Empower Self II – you use sorcery to increase your physical attributes by two points for two hours. Due to the nature of your power, this ability will automatically reactivate itself when it expires.
Improvised Transmutation I – you may manipulate the magic within your tattoos so as to cast simple combat transmutation. Simple illusions, temporary enchantments and elemental (e.g. fire) additions to objects are possible. Actual creation of matter or non-trivial modifications are beyond your ability.
(PASSIVE) Wondrous Body II – you give yourself the ability to regenerate grievous physical wounds at a very rapid rate by connecting your body directly to your sorcerous power flow. Non-fatal injuries can be healed in a matter of seconds and near-fatal injuries in minutes. The initial connection drains stamina and all healing drains sorcerous power – the ability will last for six hours without initiating a new connection. Due to the nature of your power, this ability will automatically reactivate itself when it expires.
Express Power I – you may reduce your Endurance by one point for 24 hours in exchange for completely refilling your magical reservoir (MP). You may also exchange your physical healthiness (HP) for more magical power (MP) at any time so long as you do not endanger your own life in doing so.