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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing and Star Wars: Armada Miniatures Games
>http://pastebin.com/Wca6HvBB

Fantasy Flight Games’ Star Wars RPG System (EotE/AoR/FaD)
>http://pastebin.com/wCRBdus6
>https://mega.nz/#!DkNTDTyZ!PUupCOep4RmRcsgI3rNhU_Pk_xcyFbYWnhrq8gwrVv0

Other Fantasy Flight Games Star Wars Tabletop (Imperial Assault, Star Wars: Destiny and the Star Wars LCG)
>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yN

Fantasy Flight Games Dice App (Works with X-Wing, Armada, the Star Wars RPG system and Imperial Assault)
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/64xy3uy6vepll8v/com.fantasyflightgames.swdice.ver.1.1.4.build.9.apk

Older Star Wars Tabletop (d6, d20/Saga, etc.)
>http://pastebin.com/wXP0LdyJ

Reference Materials & Misc. Resources
>http://pastebin.com/AGFFkSin

All Canon Novels and Comics (via /co/)
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ

Just What IS Canon Anyways?
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#2014_reboot
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media

The Clone Wars Viewing Guide
>http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1442/36/1442364889994.png

Writefaggotry
>http://pastebin.com/cJY5FK9T

Shipfag's hangar
>https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByhAdnTlOKOeQnA4SFByUC1aQWM&usp=sharing

HoTAC
>http://dockingbay416.com/campaign
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Do you think he kept it?
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>>50801952
I'm thinking about DIY'ing one, but that would mean cutting up some of my more expensive timbers I use for other things
Think I might have some shitty pine somewhere
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In the final scene, why didn't vader just use the force to grab the disk?
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>>50801990

I'd imagine he was busy enjoying himself, and the dude at the door only pulled it out to hand it off when it was clear he would not make it
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>>50801990
he probably didnt know who had the disk, it was really dark
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>>50801981

>that comic

Hah. I saw it thursday alone because all my friends had excuses as to why they didn't want to go. I bitched them out for it, every one of them.
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>>50801952
I just realized those are MP 40 magazine pouches.
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>>50802032
Fair bit of multi-tasking, blocking bolts, killing people, walking, chewing gum etc
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>>50802071
How else will they hold the magazines filled with tibana gas for the blasters?
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Can someone do me a huge favor, and give me a screenshot of their Savage Spirits book, specifically the Executioner talent tree.

The pdf is completely unreadable.
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>IT'S HIM
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Would you say rogue one is a must see in 3D? or is it fine seeing without?
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>>50802437
>without
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>>50801990
He can't, his force grab automatically targets the nearest neck.
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>>50802549
It prioritizes blasters first if any are available.
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>>50784863
>Darth Vader scene goes with everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLp_Hh6DKWc
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From thread a few days ago, said I'd drop the Pantoran pic requested from Endless Vigil - sorry about the massive wait. Borrowing a camera that was not my butt-o-vision potato phone proved to be a bit more of a challenge than anticipated.
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>>50802639

Do you have Savage Spirits?

If so >>50802273
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>>50802639

thanks man, looks slick af. Pantorans are alright
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>>50802668
Incoming in three parts
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>>50803097
Part 2
Bottom row coming in clearer
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>>50803111
Done
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>>50803097
>>50803111
>>50803125


Woo! Thanks Anon, your the best!
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>>50803132
No worries! I'm using Executioner to play my Gand FIndsman PC at the minute, actually. Pretty fun tree.
I'd advise picking up Endless Vigil at some point - the city contacts chapter is probably one of the best resources that FFG have written - I am pretty excited for the Bounty Hunter book's investigation chapter because of it.
(Endless Vigil has also let me finally achieve my dream of running The Force and the Furious: Kuat Drift)
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>>50803186
>I'd advise picking up Endless Vigil at some point

I have the pdf, its actually quite legible despite what others say. So far, only Forged in Battle and Savage Spirits have been complete hack jobs (pdf quality that is). I shudder to think how awful No Disintegrations will be

But hey, one should never complain (too much) over free stuff.

I'm considering making a Trandoshan Antarian Ranger for a TOR era game, and I'm thinking of combo'ing Shadow with Executioner (or Hunter). The only real drawback is the points drain for an Agility that doesn't suck (which is why I'm considering Togruta instead)
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>>50802437
I saw it without and it was fine.
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Reminder that if you like TFA, kys immediately.
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>>50803186
>(Endless Vigil has also let me finally achieve my dream of running The Force and the Furious: Kuat Drift)

Why? Did it come with any new ships?
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>>50803640
Reminder that your opinion is subjective and worthless.
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>>50803647

Better.

Podracers.
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>>50802618
>Darth Vader scene goes with everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cqDXlfASMM
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>>50803724
>Absolutely everything goes with the Darth Vader scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GND73sy9zHo
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>>50803776
>EVERYTHING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7bmXywWus8
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Ok, been a fan of SW for basically my whole life, and while I'm still trying to reason if I like or dislike TFA, Rogue One got me hyped like few movies could, I didn't expect it to come out so good (that vader scene man)

As I played 40 RPGs from FFG, how are the SW games holding up? Are they good to play/GM? Are they still supported, or at least easy to find in hardback?
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>>50804392
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/index/
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>>50802437
>watching a movie in 3d
That said I saw it in 2d and it was perfectly fine. Its a gorgeous movie
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>>50804419
I don't think the main page will be giving me a good insight of the game's quality, but at least you tried
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>>50804392
FFG games are fun and still supported. Less math-heavy than d20, and the dice are a bit weird but they're easy to get used to. Starfighter combat is rocket tag levels of lethal without houserules or official squadron rules.
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>>50804483
The first news item is announcing a new book for Force and Destiny. You're just a lazy faggot who wants to be spoonfed shit that is easily googled.
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>>50804504
And how does that give any notion about whether the games are actually good or not? Did you even get this question of mine?

You say I'm lazy when you're the one responding to only part of a small post, and by posting a useless link at that. FFG has a website, great, already knew that and it doesn't help.
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>>50804487
Got it, thanks. Are there issues one should be aware of balance-wise, like techpriests in 40k being better at everything or old bolters?
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>>50804559
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=are+the+ffg+star+wars+rpgs+good

Literally the first page of results will give you positives and negatives. kys
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>>50804583
Jedi who cheese the Move power can trivialize a whole lot of threats if you let them throw large pieces of scenery with impunity. Keyword there is "impunity." Remember to put the fear of the Empire in your players every once in a while.
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>>50804604

What's the point of having a general about star wars games if one can't even come and ask if they're good? Why are you even here?
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>>50804653
>put the fear of the Empire in your players
Either go full combined arms with Dark Trooper squads, AT-STs, M2 Hovertanks and TIE air support, or just say fuck it and have Vader show up.
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>>50804662
It's for asking questions that can't be easily googled or answered by using simple logic. Just read the OP and you would see that there are scans and pastebins relevant to your question. You could also reason that people have compiled these resources for the swg community and that therefore this community likes the FFG RPGs.

And you could have got all this info faster, and in greater depth than posting here.
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>>50805084
>Sit on a hill
>Renegade force users kill all your buddies in the base by throwing shit around
spend dark side destiny point
>Call in danger close orbital strike
>Position over-run, base security compromised
>"fry you fucking space wizard faggots!"
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>>50801981
So they sleep together now?

Makes a lot of sense.
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>>50804583
The one thing I think is really important to note too is with regards to Force Users. For once in a SWRPG, they aren't overpowered.
This does, however, come at a bit of a cost - they definitely aren't Jedi at character creation, and a force sensitive character at the start of your game is going to be Luke in Episode IV, not Obi-Wan in Episode I (Who is maybe about character generation +150 XP at the start of Episode I. I tend to give out about 10 XP a session).
I think that is great, but some players might come to the game expecting something different.
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>>50784863 →
>Darth Vader scene goes with everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVaZ0bxWx2Y
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>>50806556
>>50784863
>Darth Vader scene goes with everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxcM3nCsglA
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>>50806367
Does that still stand even if you play Force and Destiny ?
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>>50806855
Force and Destiny characters can start slightly better, but they're still pretty weak in the Force at chargen. They've got a much wider array of Forcey options though.
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I'm about to join a new game, what are some cool character ideas?
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>>50804653
Throwing shit isn't great unless you have a damn good Discipline skill. And god help you if you try that with a large object against something with decent Adversary ranks (like fucking Inquisitors)
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>>50806984
Also I had a question maybe you can answer, are the three books completely independant, with the exeption of the system obviously, or is it necessary to have the three of them to have all you may need to play ?
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>>50806658
>>50784863
>Darth Vader scene goes with everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkTLIO2zanM
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>>50806855
>>50806984
Knight-level play is an option for if you want that Obi-Wan-in-TPM feel. 150xp and a lightsaber or 9000 creds goes a long way to building competent characters regardless of the game line.
I did a mixed AoR/F&D convention game with premades using it, they ended it by kicking the shit out of an Inquisitor hunting one of the two Force-sensitives on the team. Both times I ran it the killing blow was struck by the mostly-pacifistic Mon Cal using Harm on his ass
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>>50807069
They're all completely independent and have complete copies of the rules. The differences are in the races, class tracks, and equipment in each one (Although there is overlap, like Humans being in all three).
F&D, being the latest one, does have some slight differences (Like dark side points), but the core system is the same and present in all three.
They are extremely compatible with each other, so getting a pdf of the two you aren't playing isn't a bad idea if you want the extra class track options.
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>>50807154
Ok thanks ! I'll see if I get one of the books when they'll all be avaible in my country
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>>50807069
All three are independent, but have different tools (species, some weapons, enemies and ships) in them. I second getting at least PDFs of all three, if only for the options as a GM it gives you. TIE Defenders, motherfucker!
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>>50802437
I saw it in 3D and it added nothing except a headache.
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>>50807008

>runaway slicer Droid. He wears a fake restraining bolt as a way to make people less suspicious.

>female Twilek smuggler who "owns" herself, as in the guy who bought her as his slave died and gave her the deed. What he didn't tell her is that he was about to default on the payment to the slaver he bought her from. Better shake down those credits soon or it's back to the slave pen you go.

>down-on-his-luck Trandoshan ex-prize fighter turned bodyguard. Bareknuckle box the shit out everyone.

>Falleen ambassador on the run from her past. Play up those pheromones and make yourself the most charming being in the sector.
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>>50807008
Which game?
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>>50807390
>runaway slicer droid with fake restraining bolt
Wear a real one but throw in an escape circuit from Special Mods if you can afford it. Makes resisting the thing pretty damn trivial if you have at least 2 Willpower.
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>>50807439
It's a bit of a hybrid of all the FFG stuff, but honestly, I just need a concept.

>>50807390
>tfw you're playing a shockboxer right now
It's so much fun to suddenly ORAORAORA some cocky idiot.
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>>50807008
EoTE
>Duros testpilot out seeking his fortune after the company that employed him got taken over by the Empire and fired all non-human test pilots
>Rodian performer officially "doing a grand tour of the outer rim to prep for a show of a lifetime". Unofficially completely broke and taking every gig he or she can get

AoR
>Corellian medic that can't fly. Is sick and tired of hearing about "corellian flyboys/girls" and "corellian speedfreaks".
>Gran Tactician that fought for the separatists in the Clone Wars.
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Free Magnaguard droid travelling the galaxy and trying to find a purpose to its existence... as soon as it finds where it dropped its old electrostaff.
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>>50804583
Autofire is very easy to make cartoonishly killy, so keep that in mind
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I need good U-wing builds that only use cards from the U-wing box.
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>Nerf Death Trooper blaster kept the two stocks
Is it bad that I want this now?
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>>50808332
Shit thats an easy repaint for a nice looking blaster
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>>50808357
You'd have to file off the "Star Wars" lettering, though.
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>>50808371
Nah, just put a Czerka sticker over it or something.
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>>50808371
Probably just some samdpaper is needed. This is the first time seeing it so it may be just slightly raised
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>>50807008
When in doubt, steal from West End Games

>Failed Jedi
http://d6holocron.com/wiki/index.php?title=Failed_Jedi_(Template)

>A long time ago, back in the days of the Old Republic, you were an aspiring Jedi. Sure, you remember Skywalker and Kenobi and all that crew. But you failed. You couldn't hack it. The dark side kept calling, and things never worked quite the way you wanted them to. You turned to drink, and things went downhill form there. Then, the Empire came, and suddenly it wasn't healthy to be a Jedi, or even to know anything about them. You spent a lot of years drinking heavily. It's not very pleasant to remember. Now, you've got one more chance. you've got a kid who wants to learn about the Force. You're not sure you can teach him much, but you can try... try to do something worthwhile before you die.

Fits fairly well with the focus on being weak force users in FaD
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Anyone have any idea what silhouette I would use to stat up Mu-, Nu-, and Theta-class shuttles? I am thinking 4, but the argument could be made for 3 as well. They all have fairly similar load outs iirc, so weapons and such shouldn't be too difficult. But before I dive into it, does anyone already have them built?
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>>50808631
Just use the rules for the Lambda for the Mu and Theta, IIRC, they're similar size.
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>>50808453
>that greentext
Fuck I want to play as a padawan to drunk jedi now
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Played my first Armada match yesterday as Imperials and now i'm itching for more.

I tossed this list together with what little Armada knowledge i gained. I'm a bit limited by what my friend owns shipwise (2 ImpStars & 1 Victory class) but we have OK'd proxying cards as we are both using the Armada Fleet Builder.

Is this list any good? I fell in love with Tarkin and the ImpDeuce Avenger build, but I'm not really sure about Isard's Torpy VicDeuce and my squadrons.

http://armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/view_list.php?token=58917&key=680ce77b4fd143050f3d282eba28bc8d
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>>50809030
I'd personally cut all the shenanigans on the victory relating to black dice. You're slow, you're pondering about, and that's how you like it. I have to ask, you know overload pulse occurs after everything damage related has occurred right? If not, now might be the time to apologize to your opponent, cut the missiles on the vic, upgrade to a vic 2 and give that vic the overload pulse shenanigans.

If you like the overload pulse for setting up the vic and her squadrons, sweet. I'd suggest cutting the launchers anyway and give your missiles wings by bringing along Major Rhymer, Darth Vader, and maybe a normal advanced if you can bring that along. You could also cut the turbolaser upgrade to help facilitate that. That would give you a very similar list, but the vic no longer has to close to black dice range to make someone's life a living hell. Also keep in mind a 2 ship list suffers a lot, especially if you're running up against a bunch of flotillas on the enemy's side of things. If you find the cash, buying a gozanti can serve you really well by being a small ship that you can load in that doesn't cost much and can still help with activations and as a secondary carrier ship.
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>>50808631
I would go with 4, myself. I think I may have done one of them before, check the OP. But in general I don't like anything but starfighters being silhouette 3
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>>50805084
This picture is such utter bullshit. There is no fucking way even Obi-Wan in his prime could have survived that.
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>>50809670
Well Vader is supposed to be really fucking hardcore...
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>>50809700
Yeah but come the fuck on. The scene in R1 was good, because the dudes were scared, trapped in a narrow corridor and not ready for a fight.

There's more than 100 men surrounding him, many with Pulse Cannons. Even blocking that with a lightsaber will knock you on your ass and do some damage.

I know Vader is awesome, but fucking hell.
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>>50809670
>>50809795
Did you read the comic for context?
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>>50809670
Yeah, it really brings to mind the most stupidest and power wankiest parts of the old EU. Well done Mickey Mouse, well done.
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>>50805084
>>50809670
>>50809795
Probably not Pulse riffles/cannons those are probably just DLT-20A rifles, but yes they did hit copy-paste too many times on the rebel soldiers and gave them too many armed hovertrucks.

A Little Dynasty Warriors is okay, but that was a bit much.
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>>50809795
>many with pulse cannons
This is not Battlefront. That model is just a regular blaster, like the E-11.
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>>50809670
>>50809833
He fakes a surrender, activates the thermal detonators of an infantry squad and vanishes into the smoke, dust and confusion. The squads lose morale and cohesion as he picks them off.

He reflects one vehicle weapon while bracing with effort.

Also the planet is apparently seeped with power from the old Jedi temple if that make you feel any better.


Vader Down is some metal shit but I never really felt like it was nonsense.
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>>50810218
Oh okay, that makes it slightly better, but how does he fake surrender after the badass fear and dead men line?
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>>50809389
>overload pulse occurs after everything damage related has occurred
huh then we played it all wrong. I did think the Avenger was a bit overpowered with that combo

Gonna remake the list and probably drop the VicDuece for a second ImpstarDuece
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>>50810240
Well I have the collected version but it's obvious there's and end of issue break between the two scenes.

In an non-meta sense the Alliance Sargent/Lieutenant/Captain is really keen for Vader just to surrender and keeps asking. Vader pauses during this and while his thoughts aren't explicit he's seems to reassess and avoid going full Dynasty Warriors because that'll probably get him killed.
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>>50810367
Got the pages to show us?
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>>50810367

>Trying to get Vader to surrender
>Not just magdumping on sight
How did that incompetent chucklefuck get entrusted with a leadership role, let alone that much manpower and firepower?
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>>50810435
Sitting on my desk, it's a psychical version but i recal the link to the reader version being posted some time ago. Searching 4Plebs for "Vader Down" may yield the thread.

On that note I really would recommend the Marvel Vader series, as someone who does read comics it really swallowed me whole whenever I picked the new one up.
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>>50810441
Orders were to apprehend.
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Someone mentioned a "swoop bike in a suitcase" in the FFG RPG, but I can't seem to find it. Can you help me, /tg/?
Found the jump boots and jetpack however. Are there more things like these?
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>>50810622
In that case, the people who gave that plan the green light should be sacked.
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>>50810139
>Star Wars Dynasty Warriors

Could you fucking imagine?
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>>50810709
It was probably Mon Mothma.
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>>50810709
They wanted to put on a show trial so the galaxy would not have to fear that half metal monster
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>>50809389
>>50810346
Redid my list into a 2x Impstar Deuce list

http://armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/view_list.php?token=58957&key=c8f18c3dd6e7488aeea98e3ea3a08921

The general idea is to keep overlapping front arcs, Relentless burns down and exhausts then Avenger pummels the crap out of 'em. Fighters and bombers do harassing duty mostly.
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>>50810966
Something you might want to consider is 2 copies of Electronic countermeasures instead of the current defensive retrofits. Having access to your Brace through accuracies is really helpful.

Additionally, would you consider running rogues, or do you not at the moment have access to Rogues and Villains fighter packs? Some aggressors would put down heavy fire and help deal with problem squadrons without forcing your ISDs to invest squadron commands on them. If not nbd.

Finally, you might want to consider XI7 turbolasers instead of your current turbolaser loadouts. Almost every ship in the game has a redirect, and limiting them allows your accuracies to focus on the really big problem defense tokens. The only ships this upgrade won't help with is Nebulons, raiders and flotillas, which in most circumstances would die to a shot from an ISD unaided except for maybe that nebulon if you hit it on the nose, and that's a big maybe.
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>>50810765
Fucking bothan hating hippie
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>>50811312
Let's be honest here. Borsk would have fucked it up harder than nuMothma.
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>>50805101
So by your logic this is a pretty useless general to discuss in, got it. I can only be glad you're not at my table.
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>>5081145
Not him but the FFG books are trash, don't bother.
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>>50811591
>Not him but the FFG books are trash, don't bother.
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Polar variant stats for Mon Calamari when?
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>>50811695
Just use Mon Cal stats? Why would it be different? Especially in a system where the strength difference between a human and Wookiee is only one point?
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>>50811695
Got any more?

please have more
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>>50811695
Does anybody else think it's weird how they claim that Raddus is based off of Churchill? I guess you can kind of see it in the way he looks but his actions and lines in the movie don't seem to be particularly influenced by that
I didn't like it when I found out that Raddus was supposed to be based off of Churchill since I really liked Raddus but dislike Churchill
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>>50811808
It's honestly kind of a dumb claim. He's old, militant, and has a unpleasantly fat neck, so he's apparently Churchill. Based on that, my grandfather is also based on Churchill.
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>>50811808
>>50811851
Being based on something doesn't mean it's a carbon copy.
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>>50811886
The point I'm trying to make is that even then, there are not enough similarities to make it work. He's an old militant man with a fat neck who believes in action first; that alone does not a Churchill reference make. You could just as easily take away the claims of him being based on Churchill with those and say "he's based on Trump!" The vagueness of how he's "based," on Churchill is that thin a veneer.
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>>50811851
Churchill was also one of the few leaders in Western Europe who acknowledged the danger of Nazi Germany before the war and denounced the strategy of appeasement, which Raddus taps into.

He's also like Churchill in that he's a naval officer who was at least partially responsible for a very, very costly military campaign like Gallipoli was

Which unintentionally implies that the Empire is Kebab
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>>50811917
Artists use references to convey a certain vibe, no matter how small. Also not everyone knows much detail about Churchill other than "badass british prime minister who fought Nazis"
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>>50811959
Though a hard-drinking, cigar-chomping cantankerous Mon Cal has a certain appeal to it
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>>50811921
>the Empire is Kebab
Empirefags on suicide watch
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Might host a game of Star Wars soon.

Which system is best? Is d6 worth it or should I go straight for EotE?
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>>50812014
The Grievous edit of the Remove Kebab Serb suddenly makes more sense now.
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>>50812061
FFG
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>>50812061
D6 is worth looking at for ideas, but FFG is the best system
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>>50812122
>>50812078
What are the actual differences between them?
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>>50811695
Remove 5exp and have them remove two setback dice from cold environment survival checks.
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>>50812066
But Grievous wanted to remove Jedi, which the Empire also did
That makes the republic and the jedi order the true kebab
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>>50812173
>empirefag reaching this hard
kek
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I like the darth vader comic
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>>50807476

>It's so much fun to suddenly ORAORAORA some cocky idiot.

Fuck, I've always wanted to play a space JoJo. What's the best spec, though? Marauder? Enforcer? Something else?
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>>50812299
Depends on how you want to use your Stand/Ripple, really.
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So is it canon now that my favourite spaceship ever is actually shit?
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>>50812335
Sup
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>>50812241
ME too
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>>50812335
In its defense, it was an entire rebel fleet against two isd and the got fucked because one was completely disarmed and turned into a battering ram.

If it wasn't ionized that wouldn't have happened
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>>50812379
They did sorta do a bad job of showing the fleet battering down the shields on the first one so the Y-Wings could Ionize it.
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>>50812335
Canon figures downgraded it from having "turbolaser batteries" to just "turbolasers." Of course, we have no clue how variable turbolaser power levels can be in nucanon. I'm guessing that in terms of sheer bitch-slapping capabilities, the ISD-II remains the absolute gold standard in its weight class.
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>>50812398
Yeah, but we are also not stupid enough to assume it's shields were fully charged when the isd got bopped
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>>50812419
Well yeah, I just wish they'd really shown the capital ships doing work. Other than When the Devastator drops in and vaporizes everything in its path.
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>>50812158
D6 is, well, a D6 system. It's the original Star Wars licensed system which basically built large portions of the old EU.

FFG uses a dice pool with symbols instead of numbers, which works well narratively if you can wrap your head around it. It sticks 95% to EU content with some nu-canon stuff here and there - mostly because it was first coming out around the time that the EU was still technically canon and the Mouse had just acquired LucasFilm.
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>>50803828
DELET THIS
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>>50803828
>>50812518
Not bad, I started it slightly wrong but it worked out.
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>>50811312
>Mon Mothma
>Fucking bothan hating hippie
You surely meant
>Fucking bothan loving hippie
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>>50812518
>Implying that song and the Vader scene wouldn't make the best Imperial recruitment commercial
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>>50803828

need a nuCanon book to work the 'cloud city slide' into the lre
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Whatcha' think?

Tel Trevura
Punishing One
Push the Limit
Hull Upgrade
Gonk
R5-P8

4-LOM
Mist Hunter
Stay on Target
Fire Control System
Outlaw Tech
Tractor Beam

Binayre Pirate
Black Market Slicer Tools

Tel is about survival and snapping back at attackers. 4-LOM dishes out stress and the Headhunter swoops in to block and push damage.
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This is so goofy.
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>>50812762
that video was surreal
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Does anyone have a screenshot of the Imperial Juggernaut?

So happy, I never thought I'd see my vehiclefu ever again in the big screen.
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Reminder that Darksaber is now officially canon.
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>>50802437
Saw it in 3D, I felt it added to the fleet battle
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>>50812335

No, she's still competent when a main character is aboard her.

Or, if you want to get technical, the Scarif destroyers seemed underprepared, probably under supplied - doing little more than being mobile shuttle carriers. An entire Rebel fleet in a sacrifice play rolls up to their door, they're shit out of luck. No escort or screening ships, the fighter garrison is on the shield gate, and they get slashed by a Y-Wing barrage reminding the empire Ordinance is a thing.
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>>50813371
Also they couldn't engage in any fancy tactics, they HAD to stay near the shield gate.
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>>50813302
The budget superlaser or the speshul black blade lightsaber? Because there's a big difference between them.
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>>50813402

Yeah, ISDs seem geared for attack and occupation, not objective defense. I mean, Vader chases the shit out of Tantive IV. His ride disables that ship with nothing but the forward batteries.
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>>50813405
This one.
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>>50813461
>>50813371
It should've been Victories over Scarif. Lends credence to the Rebels bushwhacking a pair of VSDs on monotonous garrison duty.

It also would've made Devestator's appearance have more weight when it comes in all big swingin' dick.

>>50813498
How and in what source? Because that's hilariously awesome.
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>>50813498
What do you mean? The Black Saber mentioned in the Scarif archives?
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>>50813558
Yeah, that.
Call it a cheeky reference if you like, but it's still mentioned under codenames for top-secret projects.
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>>50813576
Was there a mention of a certain other superweapon?
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>>50813576

Hey, maybe one of the NuCanon writers can actually make it something other than a complete fucking joke that got itself destroyed before it could accomplish anything meaningful.
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>>50812335
Not really it took a surprise attack by the entire rebel fleet to take out like two, plus tons of ion shots disabling them was already a thing in Empire Strikes Back. Much like everything star wars gritty "fortune favors the bold" actions will always pay off since it's an entire universe of rule of cool

Also are we still spoiler tagging stuff? I want to be considerate to those poor anons who haven't seen it yet, but it has been almost a week and it is /swg/ I feel like most anons are either dedicated enough to have seen it or are smart enough to avoid /swg/ and the internet in general until they get the chance
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>>50813628

A squadron-on-squadron duel to the death would actually be a pretty interesting finale, at least in comparison to the the standard "trench run" formula.
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>>50813405
I doubt that some special snowflake sword would get to be an entire secret project. Especially since Order 66 happened so there's probably a warehouse somewhere filled with old lightsabers so being able to build some dumb old mando artifact would be pointless
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HAPPY LIFE DAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auspu9FfOUg
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>>50813689
Or make it even more of a fucking joke, have nobody die stopping it, and use its colossal failure as just one more reason the NuRepublic got overconfident and disarmed.
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>>50811921
Okay, I'm really confused right now and I don't know if it's because I can be really dense, but what do you mean by "empire is kebab"?
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>>50813819
Churchill was a naval officer during World War I and one of the prime architects of the Gallipoli campaign, which was a military disaster for the British and their allies and the Ottoman Empire's biggest success of the war. The Ottomans were literally Turks, hence, kebab.
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>>50813302
>>50813498
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>>50813567
Thanks a lot, anon. May the Force be with you.
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>>50813545

I mean, Devastator crushes a rebel transport and doesn't flinch just showing up, that's pretty "shit's real" right there.

I mean, for purposes, the Victory would have made maybe more logical sense, but wouldn't have the visual iconography, and a top secret imperial R&D base full of cutting edge toys using old VSD's to watch their back?

Nah, it was probably guys on the equivalent of a parade post or something. Maybe fresh, maybe old - just sit outside the shield, make sure nobody fucks up the Gate, give the big cargo landers something to refuel or base out of, if anything happens just fort up and hold the door.

Then next thing you know "Rebels on the ground how the fuck did that - OH SHIT THERE'S AN ENEMY FLEET"
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>>50813729
I'd fucking cum historia if Episode IX ended with Poe and Kylo Ren jousting in starfighters.
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>>50813895
And this is supposed to be upsetting because the empire sympathizers are typically those you'd find on /pol/, and have been compared to a nonwhite race? Or am I missing this like a storm trooper shooting at protagonists?
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>>50813302
It was the idea of Director Drater, who thinks of impractical and largely eccentric creations, and who only got his job because his uncle was a higher up and felt bad for him
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>>50813371

Speaking of, who else is happy that Y-Wings finally got treated with respect in some sort of star wars media?

I am so proud of Y-fu, getting to be a proper bomber and being useful.
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>>50814320
>finally got treated with respect in some sort of star wars media
Where were you when a Y-wing splashed two squints in the blink of an eye in RotJ?
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>>50814088
The first one.
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>>50814363

Oh right I must have blinked.
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>>50814363
>>50814566
That is a fair counterpoint.
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>>50814320
Still needs moar power!

Actually, the Ywing has been an eternal PC favourite since next to forever in any games I've run, (the X-wing gets its time in the sun with some players) but whenever they've wanted a space tank to blow a lot of shit up, survived the odd beating and the longprobe variant for scouting- always ended up being a Y-wing
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>>50801892
Just watched Rogue One.

All I got to say: I am One with the Force. The Force is With Me.
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>>50814746
I like Y-wings, but the fact that they're hangar queens stops me from ever using one in an RPG.
At least I get to use my all time favorite ship, the Z-95 Headhunter. Cheap, common, customizable, and easy on the maintenance. Not the best fighter, but it can take on a few TIEs just fine.
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>>50814799
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>>50814746
>Those Y-wings
That artist must be a Galaga fan.
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>>50814800
Generally my guys would start out stealing TIE's and Z's, but the lack of hyperdrive can make it tricky if they don't have a carrier type setup on whatever space truck/shitbox they've probably also stolen. At least with the Y it's got a droid socket so they can plug in an astromech and maybe not end up flying through planetary bodies.
Plus the gunner position makes them pretty strong.
Also by the time Y-wings are stolen by my little space terrorists they'll also have managed to figure out how to do maintenance, mod them like a Honda Civic and not die in a dog fight nearly as much
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>>50815236
>Rictis Supplebutt
>Please, serious replies only.
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>>50815236
Asra Ponex
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>>50815236
Esra Desra
Ymris Sirmy
Bappa Uboppa
Imrin Amran
Bongo Kongo
Oingo Boingo
Lightsaber Fightsaber
Rictis Supplebutt
Kit Fingro
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>>50815344
>Lightsaber Fightsaber

Name of my next Jedi, thanks Anon!
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>>50815344
>Bongo Kongo
Please, anon, that's a name for a battlecruiser captain.
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Huge newfag with Star Wars RPGs, and I was wondering what you guys considered to be the best system form a Bounty Hunter/Smuggler style campaign during the imperial era, with much less of a focus on the force. Anyone got a Mega File for something like that?
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>>50815479
FFG's EotE or WEG,
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Have a porch that could fit into any setting that I give to you.
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>>50815541

Pretty
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>>50815541
Is that Richard Hammond?
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>>50815568
And James may is behind the waiter, newest episode of Grand Tour.

I also looked at May's solo show where he talked about peoples cars like the VW Beetle, and how they and these holiday hotel camp places were used as part of an investment scam to build up the german war machine.

I think that sounds delightfully Sheevy.
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A good helmet design, just needs something along the jawbones, but not as big and bulky as the ones on the full Mantellian Sep helmet.
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>>50815773
Reminds me of this.
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>>50815773
This one being the overstated ones. Needs something more like the shoretrooper or tank driver.

>>50815798
I can sorta see that.
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Gun platform thing.

>>50815809
>>50815798
Hell, give the sep helm the jaws off the EoD armor there with a little more oomph to them and it would be perfect.
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>>50815832
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I'm in need of a primitive, large alien species with poor grasp of basic that's suitable for a desert environment do you guys have any suggstions?

Preferably something that's frequently enslaved if possible.
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>>50816281
Are rancor still sentient?
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>>50816281

Klatooinian's

Big dumb brutes that do Hutt muscle work
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>>50816281
>>50816312
I'm thinking Wookiee large not quite that big. I guess I can go with mantellian Savrip if I need to.
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>>50816341
Nah, too small and smart, I'm thinking something like Talz. I may or may not be editing a chapter of friends like these and replacing the Mandos and Talz with Morgukai and whatever species I manage to pick. And changing it from a snowy region of a world to a desert.
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>>50816281
Gamorreans, excluding Binring Biomedical escapees.
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>>50816387
They're my fallback. Not exactly "Noble but stupid ex slaves" but it can certainly work.
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>>50816370
>Talz

Talz are fairly smart though. Their a political rival of the Pantorans
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>>50801892
Has anyone here ever run a game where all the players are Imperials? I've been doing some concept work for one but would like to hear examples.
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>>50816413

They're - fuck I can't type english
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Tank troopers are cool. Cool!
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>>50816552

>Rebels are no fun, hmph *pout*
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>>50813940

Actually, here's an interesting thought.

Scarif is basically an Inverse Endor situation.

Rebel commando insertion in a stolen shuttle, past a shield generator, with a fleet covering. Only the fleet isn't a distraction so much as they are the extraction on Scarif, and the Pathfinders deliberately blow stuff up to distract from the fact they're here to steal something. The Empire is caught completely with their pants down and even with a couple of destroyers and the ground garrison aren't able to control the enemy force completely. If Tarkin, DS-1 and Devastator hadn't shown up, Red and Gold would probably have taken the airspace, extracted the rest of the Rogue unit and been able to drop the plans in Mon Mothma's lap.

Endor is actually a trap with an overwhelming ground and space force, a shield generator which protects the prime target but is isolated enough to prevent the rebels from doing one of their hit and runs with a block of Xs or Ys. They allow the new plans to be stolen again to deliberately lead the Alliance in, and Vader lets the fake shuttle pass. All to spring the trap which would not follow the Scarif script. It retroactively makes it so Sheev was deliberately trying to subvert one of the Alliance's most memorable victories. And shows the Empire can learn some new tricks.
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so the whole battle would have ended entirely in the Empire's favor if Krennic had been more cautious and attempted to remove any options the rebels might have had, right? All he needed to do was close the shield gate as soon as it was revealed soldiers were on the ground and deploy the garrison more conservatively to still have squads patrolling to catch Jyn and her team. Hell, even just closing the shield gate would have eventually killed all the rebel operators and let the whole garrison hunt down Jyn once it was realized she was inside.

Kinda sucks that the reason the Empire lost the plans was due to a middle manager taking over and trying to earn back some respect he clearly wasn't going to deserve.
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>>50816891

Arrogance and dismissal of the enemy spells doom for the big bad? Who could have guessed.

I am a Jedi, like my father before me
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>>50816891

They had no idea just how many Rebels were in there, how specifically they got in there, or what their goals were.

And given what the Empire saw of the attack, there was zero evidence that the facility archives itself was being infiltrated. It just looked like an attack.

There were still troops patrolling they killed KC afterall but obviously when you have a major situation going down outside, you tend to send people were until then wondering inside outside. You don't go, "Oh well we better send half as much strength we need outside just in case they sneak inside."
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Bounty Hunter did a good job making the various Nikto pretty cool, though i could have sworn it had some tubeneck yellow nikto but I can't find any on the Wook.
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>>50812780
Don't worry. It's not canon
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Is it possible to build Proxy from Force Unleashed in the FFG RPG?
Holographic Costume from Desperate Allies comes close, by doesn't cover the face.
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>>50816424
I've tried to write Imperial adventures, but have never been able to get around the fact that the players would have no agency of their own due to being members of the Imperial military and would have to take orders.
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>>50817191
If anything the base was insanely well-guarded for an archive. Planetary shield, two Star Destroyers, orbital base with hundreds of fighters and defensive batteries, hundreds of troops, anti-air emplacements, dozens of ground based craft, and armored units.
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>>50815541
Not enough Orange Transparent Chainsaws.
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>>50810178
That gun looks identical to IG-88's signature gun, the Pulse Rifle/Cannon.
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So who's the worst EU character you've ever incorperated into a Star Wars tabletop game?

I once used pic related as a kind of low-to-mid game adversary for an Age Of Rebellion game, reinterpreting him as an Imperial spice baron looking to gain political power during the rebellion by causing a race war on Naboo and a false flag jedi attack on the moon dwelling space miners in order to bring more resources under his managment.
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I just started dm'ing a revised d20 campaign

Any advice from my comrades here on /tg/
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>>50811921
>Churchill was also one of the few leaders in Western Europe who acknowledged the danger of Nazi Germany before the war and denounced the strategy of appeasement, which Raddus taps into.

I don't want to get all political, but the reason Nazi Germany was even a threat was because of retards like Churchill pushing them. If they really wanted to fight Hitler, they could've just made a deal with the USSR to co-invade during the whole Polish partition thing, but nah, French and British forces sat on their asses for a whole fucking year doing fuck all as Poland fell. Churchill was a drugged up egomaniac who's strategies were stuck in the past. He fought a war to "save the Empire" and ended up selling it to the Americans. Dumbass.

...And to put in a little Star Wars here, it's the same reason why the NR should've gone for the Imperial Remnant approach as in Legends and given the Imperials a little bit of space and allowed them to breath. The fact they didn't is what led to the rise of the First Order which in turn got their capital and fleet blown up to smithereens and the Galaxy right back under a dictatorship. Again, dumbasses.
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>>50819006
Go back to /pol/, or pick up a history book sometime.
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>>50819006
>I don't want to get all political, but the reason Nazi Germany was even a threat was because of retards like Churchill pushing them. If they really wanted to fight Hitler, they could've just made a deal with the USSR to co-invade during the whole Polish partition thing, but nah, French and British forces sat on their asses for a whole fucking year doing fuck all as Poland fell. Churchill was a drugged up egomaniac who's strategies were stuck in the past. He fought a war to "save the Empire" and ended up selling it to the Americans. Dumbass.

Your staggering lack of knowledge regarding history is sadly unsurprising. For starters, Churchill wasn't the Prime Minister of Britain until the 10th of May, 1940, which you might remember as being after Poland fell.

Furthermore, Poland fell in a month flat, before the British and French militaries could even fully mobilize and why on earth would the USSR sign up to help the West in 1939 when the USSR had nothing to gain from helping them beat the Germans? The Brits and French wouldn't be too happy with letting them occupy Poland, a nation whose independence they had guaranteed, while Germany was willing to go halfsies with them.
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>>50819051
>>50819085
Disregard the shit about Poland, I suck cocks.

Everything else is correct though. Pressuring the Poles to give the krauts Danzig would've avoided war. Well, it would've avoided a West-German war, but the top ranking Germans like Hitler, Bormann, etc were pretty intent on destroying and colonizing the USSR.
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>So who's the worst EU character you've ever incorporated into a Star Wars tabletop game?

I once had Jodo Kast show up in my EotE campaign - because one of my players pissed off Jabba so much he hired Boba Fett.

The funny part of this is I have a standing rule in my campaigns - if you kill a signature character, the campaign immediately ends. So the Players, understanding that Boba Fett is after them, got really pissy
>so, if we want the game to continue we just have to let Boba Fett kill us?
>Yes. Well, just kill the guy who pissed off Jabba - the bounty isn't on everyone
>So...we have to let Fett kill Dral for the campaign to continue?
>Yes

So, Boba Fett appeared, and they killed him. Were all pretty surprised it was such an easy fight too (I had told them that for Boba Fett I wasn't going to make rolls - the Fett has no stats). When the campaign didn't immediately end, they started wondering what was up.

Thats when Boba Fett showed up. And we got to have the little reveal. He was fairly happy the party killed some amateur pretending to be him, so he let the players go (which is funny because Jabba had hired Kast, not the real Fett, so he technically wasn't obligated to do anything)
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>>50819133
>Pressuring the Poles to give the krauts Danzig would've avoided war

Yeah because if there's one thing Nazi Germany was known for, if was stopping after you give them another territory concession.

Look man I like Neville to and think he gets a bad look in but let's not be silly.
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>>50819384
>if you kill a signature character, the campaign immediately ends
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>>50819384
You are a bad GM
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>>50819443
>>50819450


Designed to stop idiots from using meta-game knowledge to go to Tatooine and gun down Luke when hes chilling with his friends at Tosche Station

The rule only applies to important universe characters (luke being an example), and so saying "signature characters" was the wrong way to put it
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>>50819455

No, we all knew exactly what you meant.

You're a shitty GM, even if it is a result of having shitty players.
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>>50819484
>You're a shitty GM

Hah, sure. I guess its a good thing for both of us your not in my games then.
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>>50809670
Vader is significantly better than Obi-Wan in his prime ever was, in both skill (a lifetime of training in both Jedi and Sith arts) and raw power (midi-chlorian counts, prophetic plot armor). Mace Windex, Qui-Gon, and Yoda together would have had problems with Vader as he was in the original trilogy. Luke only beat Vader because Vader could never muster proper killing intent against his son, and that attachment was used to get Vader to kill Palpatine in RoTJ.
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>>50815414
Bonus points if you can get someone with Admiral rank or from a farm world (Iowa) to sing the song.
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>>50818059
Check Endless Vigil. A droid with equivalent disguise hardware goes for under 16k that has rules for trying to see through the disguise. It'd be up to the GM on how to rule what it'd possibly be to buy it, price and rarity wise.
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So /swg/ I've been meaning to ask: does hyperspace exist anymore since TFA decided to call it 'jump to lightspeed'? I know it's a deliberate ANH callback, but I'm hoping to get clarification.
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>>50819975
Of course it does.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperspace
I don't get your logic. If it was referred to as both "hyperspace" and "lightspeed" in the OT, why would someone calling it "lightspeed" in TFA erase the name "hyperspace"?
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>>50819615
What is this shit, trump would not be a Jedi, motherfucker is the most selfish piece of shit there is.
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>>50820044

Don't rise to the bait, just ignore it
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>>50820172
I did for hours, then just had to say something, it's fun sometimes to reverse bait the trolls and /pol/ shitheads.
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>>50819133
>Pressuring the Poles to give the krauts Danzig would've avoided war.
Dude. Danzig wasn't Polish. It was a free city that was 90% German and ruled by their own Nazi party. Please stop posting.

What the Germans demanded was an exterritorial corridor from Germany to Danzig. And Brits forcing Poles to give it would mean Poland switching over to the German-aligned camp, which would result in war later. And while Polish military lost in 1939, it was because it wasn't prepared for this sort of warfare - it was however well prepared for a war against the Soviets. It would bolster German forces, which is exactly what Germans wanted, and the Brits didn't want.

The second choice was war sooner rather than later, destruction of Poland, and creation of a long Soviet-German border, which would lead to German-Soviet war that Germans would inevitably lose. This is what we got.
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>>50819455
Why would you even bother playing with someone that would do such a thing?
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>>50819384
>if you kill a signature character, the campaign immediately ends
That's terrible.
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>>50820434
>That's terrible.

Could you explain why?
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>>50812367
That whole thing about a single hammerhead pushed a whole SD in virtue of subluminal speed reactors made me wonder again why kamikaze fighters exiting hyperspace at subluminal speed aren't the default option for taking down unshielded cruisers or bases (like the Death Stars?)

>>50812379
It's still quite underwhelming how a little flight of Y-wings could so easily disable a cruiser. Supposedly one or two SD's should be enough to control a planet or a whole system.

>>50812412
Yeah, the movie made them look like they have close to zero point defence and are little more than glorified carriers. Which is pretty sad compared to how feared they were in episodes 5-6.

>>50813371
I personally found it quite infuriating how the two fleet seemed to fucking stare at each other for so long before actually engaging. How damn short is SW spaceships' range? I mean, we have this whole scene of officiers on the Star Destroyer shitting their pants because an entire fleet appeared in front of them and all I could think was "WHY AREN'T YOU SHOOTING YET?"
Not to mention how long it took to deploy the damn TIE.
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>>50820687
>It's still quite underwhelming how a little flight of Y-wings could so easily disable a cruiser

Thats what TIE's are for, to counter bombers. the TIE's were busy mixing it up with the X-Wings

>hich is pretty sad compared to how feared they were in episodes 5-6.

You don't see Star Destroyers engaging fighters in either 5 or 6, except for one little scene where an X-Wing gets vaped right before fire and brimstone.

>how the two fleet seemed to fucking stare at each other for so long before actually engaging

I can only chock this up the idea that those Star Destroyer captains were green, and the Imperial Navy completely ignored any kind of idea that the Rebels could deploy capital ships in strength, much less actual line ships. It was surprise and hesitation.

As for the TIE's, it did take a long time to launch them. My thought on this was that there was a command breakdown between deciding to fight or turtle up - after all, the Rebels can't do shit to get through the shield, so what does it matter how many ships they have? But once shit got real it was pretty clear that this was going to be a slugging match.

The Empire isn't infallible, and their military isn't perfect - the only thing they have over the Rebellion is economy, they don't even beat it technologically.
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>>50819484
>>50820377
>>50820434
In Anon's defence, some of us don't get much choice in what groups we play with. I generally play with a group I've known since college because I don't know anybody else who /ttrpg/s. They're far from perfect. We have a girl that gets bored and decides that suddenly her character is LOLRANDUMB, we have a guy that likes to have nice, long chats with NPCs for no particular reason, and pretty much all of us have, at 1 point or another broken a game by intentionally siding against the group or using some bizarre exploit. House rules help prevent that sort of thing.

Our current house rule is "The Order of Bligh". The Order are survivors from our very first AoR game. It was our GM's first time and he gave us far too much freedom. We fucked up that Galaxy so bad that the survivors formed a trans-dimensional order to follow us through our other games and prevent us from completely derailing the game. It actually works pretty well and it can be fun fighting the order too.
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Update on the Holiday Special writefaggotry: unsure if I'll get it done by Christmas Day due to travel issues, namely winter-induced airline delays that always seem to happen around this time of year.
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>>50822260
As we recently learned making your ships have sharp angles is a bad idea.
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>>50822260
What, did the hammerhead say Hi again?
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I had an idea for an AoR/F&D campaign, but wanted to present the premise here to see if it sounds good.

>Opens up at the Battle of Coruscant, PC's are fighting it out with CIS, BIG EPIC BATTLE.
>Get a transmission over all comms from Obi Wan Kenobi, frantically shouting that Palpatine is Darth Sidious, In a final act of petty revenge Dooku blabbed Palpatine's entire master plan to Anakin and Kenobi
>suddenly things get weird, Palpatine, in an attempt to salvage what he can issues order 66 early, so right there the clones turn on the Jedi amist this heated battle, Republic ships firing on republic ships while other ships (mostly the ones with mixed clone and non-clone crews) stop all actions while their crews battle for control of the ship, some CIS ships flee not sure what's going on, etc... PC's now have to survive this maelstrom of crossfire.
>assuming the PC's make it out of that in one piece they are faced with a pivitol choice, the Clone and CIS forces have formed into a combined force to attack Coruscant, some move to strike the Senate building while others move to attack the Jedi temple and the PC's have to decide which to go aid, forsaking the other to it's fate.
>in either case the PC's and any ships still under jedi and/or republic control will have to flee Coruscant in order to regroup and plan what comes next.

In effect the Galactic Civil war would kick off 20-years early and with a less monolithic Empire to oppose a more well-armed and better-equipped resistance, with the PC's now playing a more pivotal role in running said rebellion.
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>>50803218
Antarian rangers arent usually force sensistivs
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>>50816891
I thought the regular Imperial tactic was basically zerg-rushing with troopers or TIEs.
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>>50819133
Except for thr fact that Churchill was not prime minister initially. Britain sat on it's ass, because of Chamberlain.
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How giltterstim'd up would Raith Sienar have had to be to design this monster?
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>>50824025
>It's...finished Mr. Sienar
>Didn't you hear me the first time, I said MORE panels! MORE!
>Yes sir, of course sir
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>>50822465
No dum dum, i was just bumping the thread.
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So, it seems like a while since the 1d4chan page on X-Wing was updated; the Imperial section doesn't have any info on the TIE Striker or TIE/sf. I haven't flown either of these yet, but has anyone gotten enough experience to write tactics for them?
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>>50824051
Speaking of insane Sienar builds, this showed up in my AoR game last session. The PCs thought they would be stealing a new TIE fighter prototype. Imagine their faces when they found out it wasn't a starship but a Falchion Tank aka Scimitar Crawler
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>>50822634
Sounds like that's a lot going on, I don't think your players are going to like getting constantly broadsided with new complications like that.
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Have a double Defender/Bomber. I call it the TIE Barrager
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>>50824456
TIE striker is too new, doubt anywone has much experiance.
TIE/sf I want to see with the new mod from the striker. It's a tough craft for an empire small ship, and takes a while to shoot down but 2 agi means that it's lot worse than a defender. With the mod it's closer to a defender in staying while still being cheaper.

The aux arc is nice, but the few games I've seen/played it's not reliable. Which is why I don't think backdraft is as good, because if you're trying to manuever for that arc it's actually harder than normal manuevers and the /sf isn't that agile. Better to treat it as insurance against getting arc dodged.

I think it's biggest problem is that it has a lot of parts, lots of upgrade options, aux arc etc. And it's not clear how all those fit together.
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>>50825523
oops was meant to reply to >>50825310
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>>50801952
I sort of wondered about that promo shot. I was hoping it'd be in the film, I like this theme in the new star wars of humanizing the storm troopers a little bit.
I think he wanted to, but didn't. Those Death Troopers seemed pretty programmed.
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>>50825315
Not to mention there were TWO of the fricking things.
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>>50820798
>the order of bligh
Sounds neat. Why is it called that? And what sort of characters make it up? Do they literally appear and go "you're fucking with the timeline, quit it."?
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>>50825310
I've flown the /sf a bit. I tried a funny build that was title, Rage, Tie Ion mk2, Electronic Baffle, on Quickdraw. The potential damage output is obscene, but Quickdraw doesn't last very long at all under this build. It is a hilarious alpha strike, that will either spread a lot of hits forward and back, or dump up to two 4-die attacks on some unlucky bastard in front of it. I murdered an Asaaj Shadowcaster that way.
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>>50825523
I've proxied "Pure Sabbac" TIE Striker and he was murder incarnate with VI, Ailerons and Target Comp.

That one turn he ended up at range 1 with TL turned the entire game for me. Sure he ate ALL the aggro on consecutive turns but it was all worth it. 5 attacks with TL to the face hurts like a bitch
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While we're talking X-Wing

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!226:219,-1,209,142,187,147:45:3:;184:-1:-1:-1:;184:-1:-1:-1:;184:-1:-1:-1:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

Some good support and hazing from the Upsilon, but the real focus is using Hux to give out focus to help your /fos stay alive while two of them give up their evade tokens and let you slam a single target with six attack dice at once.

Not sure if it'll be viable, but it's fluffy and seems fun.
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I'm thinking about picking up a K-Wing to use Miranda as (yet another) regen wingman for my Rey, but I'm having trouble thinking of a build.
My Rey build is 56 points, if that helps anyone.
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>>50825315
It would make more sense upside down so the launchers can actually work.
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>>50826243
Maybe it's one of those symmetrical tanks that can handle being flipped like what the Fire Nation had?
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>>50826291
Could work.
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>>50814800
>Hangar Queen
I do not think you understand the usage of that term. A "hangar queen" is an aircraft that is grounded, and stripped of parts to service other aircraft and keep them running.
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>>50826466
Perhaps Hangar Whore would be a better term?
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>>50826466
I've never once heard it used that way. I've only heard it as a ship that needs constant care.
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>>50825599
The Order of Bligh was named for its founder, Jorrik Bligh, a former Imperial officer who defected to the Rebellion. He was our primary quest giver who we routinely fucked over. After our hijinks, which caused the mass devastation of the Galaxy and the intentional deaths of his men, he gathered up the survivors his universe and vowed to hunt us through every game and every timeline we ever influenced.

The Order are assembled similar to the Fel Empire. The majority of their forces are made up of storm troopers. However they also have a number of powerful Grey Jedi and Mandalorian mercenaries.

As a rule, they appear out of the scenery. That tree over there? 3 Order men holding leaves. That Bed? 4 Order men laid out flat.

They always attack immediately, but generally disappear once you've stopped doing whatever bullshit thing summoned them in the first place. The quantity and disposition of their forces are entirely at the discretion of the GM. So the worse the offence, the more Order-men show up.
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>>50816424
I had the idea to hand out stormtrooper statblocks to a large group of players and have them run through some sort of meatgrinder xboxhuge battle during the Galactic Civil War. Literally just kill them over and over again, adding a new number or letter to their trooper number whenever they eat a thermal detonator or take a blaster to the face or run into their Dark Lord in a bad mood.

Alternate versions of this game include playing a team of specialized battle droids or astromech for shenanigans, playing a Clone battalion on some CIS shithole, or playing some early First Order stormtroopers on their first mission.

Now if Only I could find some players with something resembling a consistent schedule and the will to keep appointments.
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>>50826668
Had a game once where we played peasants in a classic D&D setting trying to lift the curse of their village. Same premice. Was tons of fun.

Everybody died in the end.
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>>50826730
>Everybody died in the end
I feel like that's the best way to end any Star Wars campaign.
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>>50826668
So essentially this but Star Wars instead of Warhammer 40K?
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>>50826848
The original inspiration, actually. And after seeing Rogue One, I started thinking up more scenarios.
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>>50826848
>The beginning of the all guardsmen party
Ahh, still brings a tear of joy to my eye...
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>>50826668
If it was an online game, I'd be sold man.
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>>50827021
Thanks, but I stick to real life games. Nothing against online, I could just never get into it.
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>>50826668
Do the survivors end up being PC's`? Promoted to storm commandos or officers and the likeE?
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>>50826631
Google it. The only definition that comes up different, is the urban dictionary (which has one defintion listed). All other definitions for the term, as well as how the airforce and navy use the term, is to refer to a grounded plane that is being salvaged for parts.
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>>50827292
It depends on how I'm feeling afterward. It would most likely depend on the players.

If it were up to me, survivors would get rewarded with a promotion...to a canonically doomed regiment or assignment.
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Are there easy ways to get Data Info loaded into the Oggdude character generator, or am I going to have to do it by hand?
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>>50801990
He didn't actually know they had a disk. In the next movie he seems to think they beamed the plans onto the ship.
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So is being a Sith basically Nietzschean morality as interpreted by someone prone to moral panic?
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>>50827718
Well Nietzschean morality is pretty vile.
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>>50827718
Your typical sith is someone who has read the wikipedia page on Nietzhe, thinks it's realy fricking deep without having a deep understanding of it. Their most formative book that they ever read was atlas shrugged as a teen.
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>>50827753
In what way?
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>>50827566
The plans were beamed up from Scarif to the Mon Cal ship, from which the Tantive Iv detached with the plans onboard
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>>50827820
Vader doesn't know that.
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>>50827775
It's bait man.
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>>50827718
>>50827753
more that people misinterprete Nietzschean's description of a moral system as an endorcement of that system.
The Geneology of Morals describes two moral systems which he calls 'master' and 'slave' morality, but be never actually says that 'master' morality is better. Some people assumed this because they assumed that the master is better than the slave, his argument was to challenge those sort of assumptions.

Of course he was also extremely misogynistic and that was just all him and seemed to overrun any other sort of philosophy he was doing. Part of the reason to stick to the Geneology of Morals is that he never mentions women once, which makes it a much easier read than say Beyond Good and Evil.
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>>50827853
Yes, but I'm an idiot.
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>>50827868
Given what a bitch his proto-and eventually full-Nazi sister was can you blame him for not liking women?
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>>50827868
Keep in mind the climate Nietzsche was writing in. His views on women, while not exactly as kind as some, were better than many others of the time (consider Schopenhauer) and pretty novel in that he brought out the idea that women weren't incapable, pure Madonnas, which was pretty radical at the time. He was fairly influential on later feminists for a reason.

Also a lot of his more cringe-inducing rants were brought about by him being rejected by Lou Salome, so you know, imagine a crying Wojak writing those and it gets more bearable.
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>>50827775
In the way that he himself thought it was awful and trying to solve the problem of his own life work hounded him to the grave.
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>>50801892
Stardust.

>>50801952
Does anyone have extended lore on these guys? A visual dictionary entry or something?
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>>50827922
>>50827895
I know there are reasons, and it's not always like that, but I did have to put down Beyond Good and Evil after he basically said (out of fucking nowhere)
"The way to treat good women same as you treat bad women, use a whip".
Also, at his time you also had people like Mills, so Nietzsche doesn't get a free pass for his times.
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>>50801952
>>50827973
Most effective and loyal Stormtroopers are given experimental surgeries to further enhance them, put in special armor, and named "Death Troopers" after a rumored imperial project in the reanimation of dead tissue. helmet has lots of sense enhancing stuff.
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But guuuuuys, the Death Star was just doing what every single Star Destroyer was already able to do with a single turbolaser!
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>>50801892
So, I'm not the only one who thought that Rogue One was a Pretty standard RPG adventure, right>?
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>>50828221
Both Rogue One and Rebels give me a lot of tabletop vibes.
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>>50828211
>A single turbo laser

Generally speaking, it would require sustained bombardment from multiple Star destroyers to accomplish the equivalent of the "small" blasts the Death Star put out.
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>>50828211
He wasn't QUITE that bad, but yeah, pretty damned stupid.
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>>50828240
>>50828221

R1 definitely has a bit of that "Okay, let's go do something stupid and dangerous, we'll need this asshole, that asshole and that other guy" You get in some game scenarios. And then the uneven levels of characterization/backstory - the same thing you might get in a campaign. Jyn's player clearly turned in some more material to the GM than K2's or Bodhi's.

Clearly using AoR GM's kit Squad rules.
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>>50828316
You know, I don't think people realize that the 'tabletop vibes' can be applied to nearly every film ever made, kind of weird when you think about it.
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surprised that not only did Rogue One not suck, it was actually good. Lots better than TFA.

I'm actually optimistic about the spin off movies now


almost makes me want to run an Age of Rebellion game
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>>50828316
Personally, I thought Bodhi was an NPC.

Chirrut and Baze had good backstory and K2 was sparse, but they all really killed it in the role-playing side.

Cassian's player kinda just turned up and tried to play a "shades of grey badass" but he had his moments.
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>>50828405
It didn't feel as "epic" as TFA for me, but I enjoyed it a lot more in the aftermath.
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>>50828256
>>50828258
Well, according to his CW stuff, a Munificent can deliver petatons, which would approximately burn off an entire hemisphere per shot with it's main gun, and that's just a frigate by his standards
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>>50828490
True, but the drawn Munificent guns were really massive (Even compared to their offical CG models) so I think he upscaled from more ordinary ones further than he was supposed to.
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>>50828490
>Star Wars has no sense of scale, news at eleven
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>>50828390

Yeah, there's definitely a certain type of film structure, ensemble stories in particular which matches really well to the beats of a good /tg/ scenario. Rogue One strongly has that, and movies it's similar to probably do also.

>>50828458

Bodhi feels like maybe a late addition. Like if I was writing the Darths And Droids comic equivalent, he was an NPC that another player jumped into on Jedha after the GM was done with him and surges in importance.

His nervousness and uncertainty translates pretty well as a new roleplayer, and that "I'm Bodhi Rook, I'm the pilot" would click so well as a "wait, who am I playing again?" moment.
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I only caught the Darksaber reference in the Project names but was there anything else?
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>>50828682
I think Dark Troopers were in there too
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>>50828726
In what? Rebel one or star wars rebels?
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>>50828653
>After the interrogation scene he has to be reminded that he's Bodhi, The Pilot because five minutes have passed
Priceless.
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>>50827380
Google "bigtent oggdude". There should be a group you can join and download files from. Been a while since I checked it, but even if it isn't up to date and complete to the newest book, it should save you a lot of work.
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>>50828773
Well, he barely passed his Will save to keep his mind intact.
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When will this sexy beast get an X wing model and release?
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>>50828865
with all the incoming nuCanon ships, probably never.
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>>50828785
I saw the Bigtent link in the OP, the front page was kind of vague and I've never heard of Bigtent before and was wary of having to sign up for something I've never heard of. No Dropbox or Mega link?
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>>50825511
That's fucking sexy. She needs a beefier center pylon imo, like Biggs' custom TIE/ln
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>>50828769
In the project names.
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>>50801892

First-time AoR player here. What's a good build for a starfighter pilot? (We're homebrewing fighter combat, fyi)
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>>50829497
Homebrewing it how?

Also new thread when?
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>>50829497
>>50829505

I think he means he's using one of the fighter combat fixes.
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>>50829603
>>50829603
>>50829603
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>>50815479
That is literally the blurb for EotE. The careers are Bounty Hunter, Colonist, Explorer, Hired Gun, Smuggler, Technician



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