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You ever notice how in worldbuilding threads nobody really gives a shit about what anyone else has to say? Ever? I've noticed this board has become more and more like r/worldbuilding because these threads typically consist of 4 or 5 people dumping lore and never responding to each others posts, just shouting nonsense into the void people will never read only for the thread to get buried by a flood of generals and political outrage threads. As a matter of fact I haven't participated in them since 2020 but that problem wasn't as bad back then as it is now. Why? What happened?
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>>94369301
Bumbfag kept replying to worldbuilding posts with superfluous one sentence questions to keep the threads around longer. This shifted the culture around worldbuilding threads.
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>>94369301
A few months ago I tried participating by asking questions or complaints to engage people's lore dumps. They went pretty much ignored, people in those threads are more interested in dumping their epic lore instead of talking about it.
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>>94369369
>complaints
Compliments*
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>>94369301
When's the last time /tg/ made a game? There's the hollow earth game, and... ?
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>>94369377
I think we had a train game up to a year or two ago.
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>>94369301
I don't give a shit about what you have to say.
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>>94369301
When i go into worldbuilding threads i try to make it my job to read other peoples shit and tie it together
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>>94369377
Design by committee is always trash and the settings /tg/ has made are embarrassing.
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>>94369301
Almost all of those threads are made by parasites. Everyone who actually had good ideas caught on and stopped posting in them, leaving only the dregs of the board who either have no pattern recognition or are so desperate for acknowledgement that they'll subject themselves to being interrogated by a content farm bot.
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>>94369351
This. I don't contribute ideas to worldbuilding threads anymore because I know a certain someone will just bump the thread twelve hours later asking an insane question. It feels like my efforts are wasted and I'm just being used to satisfy someone's compulsions.
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>>94369369
Who's fault is it that this shitty board can't tell my good setting apart from their shitty derivative setting?
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>>94369301
thats because "worldbuilders" are actually failed authors. no one gives a fuck about your shitty amazon pdf garbage
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>>94369351
>>94369572
You also can't forget the WAHT GAYME fag who would spam the threads as well, or the paranoid dicklicker who would just assume the OP is bumpfag and cry like a little bitch until the post hit autosage.
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>>94369301
Because everyone is paranoid that the threads are just data harvesting traps.
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>>94369881
Hi nogames.
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>>94369301
Because people dont actually care about new settings, they just say they want new settings but never actually really desire to go into a new setting.
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>>94370148
Oh yeah, this fag too who would cry nogames at anyone who wants to talk about anything but D&D 5E.
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>>94370150
Settings in general are a trap.
Don't design a setting,
Run
A
Fucking
Game.
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>>94370316
Just do what you enjoy :)
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>>94369301
Bunch of stuff at once.
They've become increasingly obvious spam or something the OP has no actual game to talk about, its just a fancy they had and decided to post about repeatedly. The doubleposting related threads in sequence and lack of actual dialogue makes it very obvious there's nothing to do there. Stuff like
>>94348105 Which is a recycled topic from recently,
>>94352439 that ties into
>>94361336
and the faux aggressive posturing that goes into
>>94363253, also being a recycled topic.
If these aren't the same poster or bot its impressively similar and has been happening for years at this point.
It kills most interest in discussing the topic because we all know its not going anywhere. OP has no game or contributions of their own, no spark of inspiration to motivate. Just the need to make threads to fill space.
Ends up making for a notable Hawthorne effect. Its so obviously fake and stilted few want to engage. There's some honest attempts every time because some people are in the mood or are trying to make things better with effort but the low effort posting has become nothing but easier over time.
Not sure if its innovative tactics, some sort of internal 4chin advertising/thread count requirement, empty autists or what, but its very successfully eroded most interest in sharing creativity or enthusiasm to know 90% of the time the response will be something empty along the line of
>interesting could you please tell me more about Noun?
This combines with post 2020 covid ttg boom and market saturation leading into a recession and content overload. The safe derivative sales have gotten far away enough from inspirational works and are just recycling themselves so you can only do that for so long.
Its not all doom and gloom, its just that free wheeling creative ttg energy isn't centralized or aggregateble anymore. All the aggregators do is centralize the consumers.
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>>94370364
>It kills most interest in discussing the topic because we all know its not going anywhere.
This is the biggest issue for me. Nothing that I put into those topics means anything, because I neither get useful feedback and they're not producing anything of substance. They are just blackholes that suck in anything that draws too close and give nothing back.
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>>94369394
yeah there's been a train game but ever since 1d4chan died you can't know for sure because who the fuck is cataloging all this shit?
as cringy as the wiki cultures are and as shitty as many of the articles there were, the wiki still served a good purpose
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>>94369301
Why bother? They only exist to spam furry smut, the question is just a pretext and bait for newfags to make the thread seem on-topic. Plus nothing is ever actually made in them. Best case scenario its just padding the egos for ideas guys and at worst its child and animal porn
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I liked a lot the genocidal-fairies-on-a-pond setting, there were nice concepts like the old toad and the great Deceiver, it lost traction and gained friction while people was nitpicking Big animals and humans role on the setting
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>>94370628
>I liked a lot the genocidal-fairies-on-a-pond setting
That was fun, shame how that petered out. I thought it could have had real potential if anons stuck with it.
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>>94369301
Bumpfag, but also homebrewing and games that might do something with the worldbuilding (eg quests, but even just a campaign) have to be taken off /tg/
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>>94370849
>5 different CYOA threads currently on teegee
we're never getting fully rid of questfags and the like
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>>94370498
What happened to 1d6chan?
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>>94370900
CYOA is fucking QUESTS why the FUCK are they still in /tg/
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>>94369394
Derailed. It was a damn good one with sick fan art.
>>94369301
Not never EVER ever it's just that the few dialogue posters are vastly outweighed by wannabe bloggers.
>>94369351
Sucks how much that lone nigger has poisoned the well.
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>>94369301
Mods want to kill this board, bud. You need to be blind to not notice all the bumpfagging, cheap baiting, shilling. The unrelated spam is strongly enabled.
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>>94369881
5e is good because it is popular, right?
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>>94371908
>derailed
yeah the gamefound for it hasn't updated since 09.2023 from the designer as far as I can tell.
Looked really interesting though and the beta pdf. is available.
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>>94371536
CYOA is technically not a quest. Neither is Towergirls.
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>>94369369
Not only that but I swear he is also using an AI scraper to steal ideas and make more shitty threads with them
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>>94371951
Don't forget how one sided the banning is as well.
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>>94369301
Yeah and why dont these worldbuilders or story weavers or whathever never want to talk about the games they are using to run their super awesome settings?
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>>94373159
Cool homebrew anon
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>>94369881
Compose yourself. Most such threads are indeed wastes of catalog space, with OP asking the same question already spammed a prior 27 times. These lack merit and so are entirely mockable.
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>>94373193
>wastes of catalog space
There are at least 15 WH40k threads currently shitting up /tg/. I'd rather "catgirl wut do" than yet another fucking 40k thread. Waste of catalogy space my ass. I'd rather have THIS thread than another fucking retarded ass WH40k thread.
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>>94373211
Again, compose yourself. One type of cancer does not excuse a second. And it certainly does not lend one speck of legitimacy.
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>>94373242
Calm down, sperg.
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>>94373211
>bitching about warhammer on the warhammer board
>bitching about people discussing actual games
double retard
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>>94373211
There he is, bumpfag showed up
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>>94373258
That is what I requested that you do, yes.
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>>94373270
Take your meds, please.
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>>94373340
Actually, your hostile apparent insecurity has become something of a calling card. I doubt there is any one bumpfag, but you seem especially irked at your own "efforts" getting derided.
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>>94373242
Sorry anon, but you're talking to more than one person. Your views are silly.

>>94373263
/tg/ is the RPG board. Warhammer used to be interesting but has turned into incel wankdom.
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>>94373402
>you're talking to more than one person.
And my statement applies no less to such similar individuals. You may ho ahead and try to outline why you in particular my views are silly.
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>>94373373
>I doubt there is any one bumpfag
Glad to hear your condition is improving.
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>>94373764
Who precisely do you assume that I am? And what reasoning led you to make such a leap in deduction?
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The tears of butthurt "no games" "no system" are delicious. Please keep em coming.
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>>94373856
Why post such a thing if you are not feeling rather put out yourself? Why draw attention to your own tendency to be rustled like this?
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>want to make some kind of point
>look up when moot sold 4chan
>2015
>it's nearly been a decade
>forget my original point entirely due to rapidly getting dementia from aging so quickly
I can't believe reddit's gone so long without Zuckerberg...
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>>94373856
Just remember that you can total control and always can ban people who discuss games with no reason.
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>>94373211
At least 40k threads are about games.
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>>94373806
he does this routine every time someone mentions him in a meta thread
>>94344436
>>94345783
>https://www.deviantart.com/the-literary-lord
>https://www.reddit.com/user/The-Literary-Lord/

however, bumpfag is absolutely a real person
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>>94375327
It's amazing how little effort he puts in attempting to hide the fact that he's just farming ideas. Almost as amazing as how little progress he's actually made from all of his idea farming.
You'd think spending this long pestering people for suggestions would give you enough details to finish a setting by now, but no. He's still getting stuck because he's too retarded to even put all the pieces he's stolen together.
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>>94375327
Or maybe not everyone knows about your boogeyman dumbass.
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>>94376095
oh, you absolutely do know, i think another one of your favourite turns of phrase is 'schizophrenic loons'
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>>94376095
Refusing to notice a trend doesn't stop a trend.
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>>94376114
I know you are a retarded nogames shitting up /tg/ by jumping at shadows. Also I never said I don't know of he who bumps moron. I said that not everyone knows of him.
>>94376123
The trend is in your head and likely the only thing in your head
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>>94376190
>I know you are a retarded nogames shitting up /tg/ by jumping at shadows.
you cope like this every time, what do you have to gain from this pitiful attempt at covering up your tracks? you immediately reposted one of your deviantart favourites in a thread you've kept alive for over a month and you think people aren't going to connect the dots?

>Also I never said I don't know of he who bumps moron. I said that not everyone knows of him.
you implied you didn't know, but i know subtext is lost on an autist, so here we are

serious question, why do you think it's fair for you to treat this board like your personal worldbuilding toilet?
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>>94376078
He's not attempting to put anything together in the first place, he's just extremely autistic and gets upset when threads he likes fall off. That's part of problem and why it feels so insincere, that he doesn't actually care about the answers.
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>>94376249
All that to say you are a retard who thinks anyone who disagrees with your stupid claims of a boogeyman is said boogeyman.
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>>94376453
lol, cope literary lord
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>>94376308
No wonder he's nogames, he must be insufferable to actually play with
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>>94376466
No u and your stupid gay face.
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>>94376190
>I never said I don't know of he who bumps
>I said that not everyone knows of him
People not knowing doesn't make him not exist.
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>>94377544
You not knowing how to use your brain doesn't make him exist.
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>>94377691
Do you honestly believe you're fooling anyone with this bullshit?
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>>94377691
>You not knowing X doesn't make Y exist!
Everything in the world exists whether I know anything or not, so I'm glad you agree.

You're free to go somewhere else if people talking about someone who obviously isn't you isn't a topic you care about though. There's no reason for you to randomly insult people for talking shit about some guy you don't even think is real despite evidence being posted in this very thread.
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>>94377691
Even if bumpfag doesn't exist, his kind of behaviour is part of the scourge that ruined the board.
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>>94377721
I believe you are stupid faggot.
>>94377819
I agree that you are retarded. If had a brain you would understand that dumb faggot shitting up /tg/ with crying about a boogeyman is not good for the board. There is no evidence in this or any other thread moron.
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>>94377946
>ESL can't read or formulate an argument
Many such cases.
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>>94377967
Good job finding your own posts retard.
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>>94377967
>https://x.com/LiteraryLord
presuming that this is bumpfag's twitter account and the photo is him, he is indeed a brownoid subhuman
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>>94369351
Bumpfag isn’t real, take your medication you paranoid schizophrenic.
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>>94370316
Games are for Incel creeps, I only come to /tg/ to discuss fantasy lore/books and worldbuilding

And just to remind you, this has been a major part of /tg/ culture since day 1 :)
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bump
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>>94377946
>that dumb faggot shitting up /tg/
That person doesn't exist faggot! You have no evidence he exists retard! Your brain doesn't work moron!

Am I doing it correctly? This sort of behavior is good for the board, is it?
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>>94378276
That's too /lit/ to be him. The one from SpaceBattles is definitely Bumpfag though.
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>>94378307
You gargling ballsacks somewhere else would help the board.
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>bumpfag apologists out in full force
What do they have to gain from this?
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imj out and about and you try to police my game? you try to write my threads for me? you kow damn well IMADE THIS THREAD YESTERDAY and you had me put out by the whole staff for all to see and humiliated. you think you can just come in and start policing up now? you are a man with a mask on you kno that? a man with a mask on. you try to play the alternative hpyothiesis approach but every time you try to come into MY GAMES you put on that mask and slide, baby slide. just another thread you made after you got other people thrown out, banned up and locked down. hope you think you are satsified because i sure as hell knoW YOU ARENT
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>>94375327
Puckee21 is just another bumpfag and redditor that has infested this board
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>>94379066
it's the same poster who does this in every meta thread, there is no one else retarded enough or with enough vested interest to pretend he doesn't exist
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>>94379066
They like fucking things up for people who try or want to make things better. They're spiteful children with no friends on the internet. Its not going to be good and they can shit out garbage far more quickly than anything interesting or useful. Like this guy. >>94378299
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>>94369881
Watgamefag only exists because of nogames and bumpfag's vagueposts to keep offtopic threads alive.
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>>94369881

"What game" is a perfectly valid question. Worldbuilding in a vacuum has no value whatsoever and is off-topic for this board. This board is for games only, not generic fantasy daydreaming. If you're not playing a game or planning to, don't post.
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>>94370364
Don't forget this faggoty thread about the METANARRATIVE IMPACT OF SORDS??? that shows up like once a week: >>94370369

And this thread bumpfag has kept alive for over a month: >>94119829
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>>94380045
>swords numba 1
>Necromancy but not ebil
>martials vs casters
>this primarch the best
>tau fag stuff
>why 40k no logic?
>realism in muh fantasy
>how anime xyz in rog?
>newly discovered rpg or theme posted twice
are fairly standard regulars that get the pasta shuffled a bit.
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>>94380099
Some bumpfag specific ones
>magic system/circles
>elemental systems
>some western kids cartoon that LL is fixated on for this month (avatar, that frog one, and the gay witches one are his mainstays)
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>>94380028
He's a faggot because he ignores any answer that doesn't excuse his hate-boner. Also while an excess of vagueposts is a plague some blue sky discussion can be fun for its own sake and provide inspiration for gameable content.
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>>94380045
>And this thread bumpfag has kept alive for over a month
It's been a while since I've visited /tg/, mods got rid of the autosage?
That's pretty grim.
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>>94380234
Yeah they dropped the 7 day autosage semi-recently and bumpfag immediately started keeping threads on month-long life support
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>>94379126
Or maybe it's just you who is retarded.
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>>94380001
I'm still convinced that he was dragonfag and is doing this out of spite after being told to fuck off one too many times. His behavior is exactly like dragonfags but without the dragons
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What's wrong with bumping the threads you like?
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>>94380951
What's bad with thread necromancy? If you can't see the difference between occasional bumps and zombie threads kept "alive" by the vacant autism of one obsessive cunt then you're blind.
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>>94380837
Who the fuck is dragonfag?
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>>94380951
It's fine within reason, but when there's obviously nothing left to say and the OP resorts to samefaggotry just to pretend his thread isn't dead then it's a problem. Just look at this shit:
>>94083579
Scroll through that and look at the timestamp on the post every time you see a retarded question or meaningless zero-effort reply. By my count bumpfag has at least 65 posts in that thread, and the cunt's going to keep it alive through New Year's if the jannies don't do anything about it (which they probably won't).
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>>94380028
>This board is for games only, not generic fantasy daydreaming. If you're not playing a game or planning to, don't post.
Check the archives new fag, and There is a reason jannies don’t remove the posts despite your sperging and bitter bitter tears lol.

The board was created for 40k lorefags to talk lore, all of which were “nogames”
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>>94381649
Yeah one time when I was posting in one because it was about vampires around halloween, I tried replying to other people. Zero discussions generated.

Guy's fuckin' weird man.
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>>94370316
Can't run a TTRPG without a setting to run it in, retard. Way to out yourself as a nogames faggot.
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>>94381649
It's pollution. That impulse is always present in idea guys (myself included) but it's something to be restrained for personal growth and collective benefit. Bumpfag is not only a cancer in his own right, the only people who eat up the fake non-engagement he offers are the solipsistic 'tard sort of worldbuilders. Shit from his zombie spam ripples across the whole board.
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>>94380977
Another schizophrenic delusion like Bumpfag, that represents any poster who doesn’t engage in generals and political bait.
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>>94381649
I even gave some of his posts the benefit of the doubt and tried to engage with him and take interest in the topic but he also did his flat responses assuming I got a response at all.
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>>94381690
Get fucked. Cutefag spammed the board for months and the mods didn't do shit about him with the same "does your game have cute monsters" or some variation of that nearly every day of the week. I mean, how the fuck does someone commit to that shit? You'd think it'd be more fun playing video games all day but nope that's the closest thing he has to social interaciton.
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>>94381667
>>94381691
people theorize bumpfag has a dependent personality disorder, his pet topics are a pretext for him to receive care from other people

it does explain why he only asks surface level questions, because his real goal is to get helpful replies, not to sincerely discuss the topic at hand
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>bumpfag
Why would people believe it's even a single person?
/tg/'s format allows to "kill" threads by bumping other thread and making a new one/hoping someone else makes a new one.
Even I did that once for a thread I hated lol
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>call out bumpfags negative influence on the board
>anons come out gaslighting like crazy, calling anyone aware of literary lord a schizo
why would they work so hard to keep us from noticing?
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>>94383524
Drunk on power
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This board is dead and gookmoot should fucking delete it.
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>>94383524
the schizo part is believing that it's only one person and crafting a whole narrative about it.
the posts are indeed shit, but there are multiple ways why anons might want a thread to stay on
>believing they're "supporting" the thread's topic
>keeping up a shitty or stupid thread just to cause chaos/trigger certain types of anons
>killing other threads as described in >>94383412
>being desperate for replies to their own previous post in the same thread, instead of spamming the same post elsewhere
>thread started cool, someone hopes to "revive" it
and so on
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I got accused of being a bumpfag in a thread I made and didn't understand what the anon was talking about.
I didn't know it was this had on this board. Holy shit.

Out of general spam, and this bumpfag, there's something fucked with the ecosystem of this board. What can be done? 1000 post thread limits? 7 day auto sage? There's too many generals for every topic. There's like half a dozen 40k gens.
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>>94383412
>>94383973
I think the real skitzo part is the part where they keep feeling complete incredulity at their own beliefs, and especially where they express their incredulity in the form of a question, like "HOW COULD ONE PERSON BE MAKING ALL THESE POSTS WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM???" They are blatantly aware of how stupid the idea is but they just won't let go of it.
Anyone who tries to answer one of those questions just becomes part of the conspiracy as per >>94383524 and >>94383560. They're hopeless. Some people just shouldn't be using anonymous websites.
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>>94380016
>>94380028
You are not the arbiter of what is on or off topic. I've had enough warnings and posts deleted for being off topic to know full fucking well that not just jannies but also mods are active here. If worldbuilding was off topic, they'd be deleted.
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>>94384012
Delete /tg/
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>>94369881
WAHTGAYMEfag needs to go fuck his urethra with a railroad spike.

Bumpfag is annoying, because he's fostered a distrust to any kind of engagement as >>94369369 has pointed out, but I'd rather take him and his fake engagement than the paranoid fucker screaming about Bumpfag at every turn.
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>>94384012
>What can be done? 1000 post thread limits? 7 day auto sage?
extend the mandatory waiting period to post to two days, maybe even a week, so faggots with phones can't just ban evade and make yet another elf thread
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>>94380951
it makes spergs cry and feel butthurt
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>>94384012
On our end the best you can do is pop in, sage the thread and point out its a bumpfag thread and then hide said thread. Reporting doesn't work because shit like >>94380516 is allowed here.
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>>94384242
You are the cancer killing /tg/
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>>94384012
yeah I get this all the time because I don't check if something's on page 10 lol
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>>94384271
>botspam is good
>pointing out botspam is bad
Have you considered suicide?
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>>94384271
>One post is going to ruin the entire thread that has only 3 replies in the last 48 hours
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>>94384242
If that really is the best you can do then you need to reexamine your life. Ask yourself what you really get out of using the internet and consider that you might be better off without it.
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>>94384242
>>94384273
Its ok to bump your thread at page 10. The bumpfag issue is about a faggot bumping his thread for A MONTH STRAIGHT. I'd bump my thread for maybe 3 days, that's most satisfaction I can get.
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>>94384311
>>94384348
Thank you for proving me right. Now, instead of complaining about people who play games talking about game-adjacent material, play some fucking games.
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>>94384372
Interesting. What are your thoughts about dragons in your setting? Are there any traits can think of that a dragon has?
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>>94384354
Ditto
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>>94381649
Yes. It's ideas guy shit, they don't want to talk with anyone, they want people to listen to them and up vote.
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>>94384398
I run a Babylon 5-inspired homebrew, the closest thing I got to dragons are strange space entities like the old ones and saurian megafuana. How do you hand dragons in your games?
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>>94384242
>The responses to that Beholder thread
Jesus, you fags have no soul. That's the kind of shit we need, not constant screeching about boogeyman.

>>94384693
Did Babylon 5 ever do space-faring superfauna? It's been decades since I sat down and watched it, and the closest I can remember is Kosh out of his suit taking on the form of big glowing thing.
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>>94384693
Interesting. What are your thoughts on strange space entities? Are there any traits you can think of that make a space entity strange?
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>>94384725
They can exist in a vacuum and don't need a jump drive to move at faster than light speeds.

>>94384716
Many of the Old Ones that remained in the galaxy were spacefaring. Even Lorien's base form could FTL without a ship.
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>>94384747
Babylon 5 was weird. I also remember it did that annoying sci-fi trope of things evolving to another plane of existence is the end goal of all life.
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>>94384802
To be fair to Babylon 5, its from like 1996. The trope was far less common back then. It's also Lord of the Rings fanfiction.
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>>94384747
>>94384802
>>94384816
pathetic samefag
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>>94384816
>It's also Lord of the Rings fanfiction.
Fuck, it really is, isn't it?
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>>94384820
Get a life, gamelet.
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>>94384838
ummm acksually
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>>94384848
>Edited the (You)
>Didn't edit the referral lines
>Didn't alter the xref data
Lazy and stupid!
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>>94384868
Trolling used to mean something.
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>>94384023
Neither are you, and asking about traditional games is always on topic ;^)
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>>94383973
>>94384016
Not everyone who necros a thread is bumpfag, but trying to pretend bumpfag doesn't exist when he's so easily profiled means you're either new, autistic, or a gaslighting faggot
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>>94384965
Oh look it's that guy who totally doesn't exist, right on schedule.
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>>94385291
>so easily profiled
Wow, a character that only bumps threads you personally dislike? And is solely responsible for all of them? You're right, it is pretty easy to invent a profile, as long as you don't care about truth or accuracy.

Think about how many generals get bumped, bumped in a fashion that pushes down every other type of thread, and then explain why that's not the work of your dreaded bumpfag.
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>>94385418
You should lurk for a year before posting. Eventually you'll figure out how to identify writing styles.
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this place fucking sucks and should be deleted.
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>>94385470
I hope your mom gets cancer you pathetic fucking faggot terminally online autist fuck
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>>94385418
There is a bumpfag, but out of the autists that haunt this board, he's the least harmful. He's just annoying because he asks conversation leading questions and never engages, and he might be content farming on a public forum.
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>>94375327
That gallery is fucking cancer holy shit.
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>>94385681
>ai slop addict
not surprised.
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>>94385418
>a character that only bumps threads you personally dislike?
He actually bumps plenty of threads I've liked in the past, ironically killing all the discussion in them with his inane non-posts. Like the Bionicle thread.
>And is solely responsible for all of them?
I literally just said that wasn't the case, so you're either an illiterate retard or a disingenuous gaslighter pretending to be retarded. Probably the latter to bait me into posting the pdf so you can report it.
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>>94385531
>he's the least harmful
He singlehandedly killed worldbuilding because nobody wants to devote their creativity to a conversational parasite who will never actually hold a conversation.
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>>94385841
As someone who doesn't personally get bothered over much by bumpfag the core issue seems to more be the board's quality and traffic has dropped to the point he's actually quite noticeable. If threads were high quality and traffic was buzzing we probably wouldn't even notice.
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>>94385847
If the board was more lively he wouldn't post at all since he's a weird little voyeuristic freak who wants to watch other people to discuss things he likes rather than to be a part of said discussion. It's a bit of a negative feedback loop, really
>board is slow/sparsely populated
>therefore, conversation is slow and often dies out before autosage
>bumpfag bumps spent threads in a vain effort to reignite conversation without actually participating in conversation
>occasionally someone answers one of his vague posts, but since the end goal is keeping the thread alive rather than holding a conversation, bumpfag ignores the post for 12-15 hours
>anon, feeling used, refuses to participate in that thread or any like it
>therefore, board is slow/sparsely populated...
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>>94384820
Lol, the same thing as in previous thread like tgat. Trying to spam it this way. What a champ.
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>>94385847
>If threads were high quality and traffic was buzzing we probably wouldn't even notice.
but this hasn't been the case in the five years he's been lurking here, barring some massive influx of migrants to this board, this will just drag on and on and on until either /tg/ is gone or bumpfag dies

i actually want to talk about worldbuilding, but not while he's here
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>>94370316
>Run
>A
>Fucking
>Game.
In what setting, smart ass?
>Your party arrives in uhhh
>Your quest is to ummm
>You meet a... ????
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>>94371951
>shilling
I hate this line of thinking on /tg/, it's /v/-tier discussion. Every single time someone posts a new RPG that isn't from Paizo or WotC or someone similarly popular the thread fills with accusations of shilling immediately. People seem to fucking hate the thought of discussing Traditional Games that aren't from established companies.
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>>94373918
This is how I feel.
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>>94382867
>I mean, how the fuck does someone commit to that shit?
Maybe it really isn't just one person duh
Just try visiting non anonymous spaces.
You often see people copying each other or doing variation of what others did, either as humor, to ride on a trend, because they expect the same quantity/quality of replies or reactions, and so on.
It is indeed super schizo to see few anonymous posts sharing similarities and instantly namedropping some fag you can't stop thinking about.
And yeah, some posters do suck or leave trails to accounts elsewhere. Whatever.
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>>94384273
>yeah I get this all the time because I don't check if something's on page 10 lol
Same.

>sort catalog by last reply like a normal person
>reply to thread
>immediately get a (You)
>it's some sperg HMMMMMM ISN'T IT INTERESTING HOW YOU JUST COMMENTED IN THIS THREAD
>realize he's been lurking the thread waiting to complain about other people replying
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>>94386882
We totally believe you, hon
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>Got a global warning for calling out bumpfag spam thread in another thread
the janny here is still a faggot I see.
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>>94387203
I saw your post get deleted. You called a new thread with active discussion that's only a day old a bumpfag thread. You'll only know a bumpfag if he necrobumps for more than a week. Are you just calling every thread a bumpfag?
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>>94385470
wow look dis write style make me new person! write style is like finga print!

>>94385531
There are "bumpfags". Trying to create a boogeyman out of a common behavior is just trying to create a distraction, as we can see how most of this thread has just been discussion about this boogeyman rather than anything actually productive.

Bumping threads with inane questions is an incredibly common behavior. That's how most generals on this board keep afloat.
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>>94388362
>Trying to create a boogeyman out of a common behavior is just trying to create a distraction
It looks more like an explanation than a distraction. I don't agree with it, but there's not much to be done either way, short of mass spamming the board with actual content threads. A difficult proposition to begin with, let alone when the enemy are soulless NPCs who have de facto leave to shotgun diarrhea all over page one whenever they get pissy that fa/tg/uys don't like them.
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>stop noticing things goy
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>>94389351
Everyone notices your retardation. Turning a boogeyman morons cry about for stupid reasons into some evil plot to kill a board on 4chan is pure stupidity.
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>>94389351
Lmao this only affects /pol/ during election season. The moment trump got elected all the kamalabots shut off.
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Bumpfag(s) is real and you all encourage him by constantly telling him to kill himself. Don't reply to threads/posts that contribute nothing of value (like most of this thread lmao). Unless you're a janny, ignoring him is the best you can do.
>>94370364
Good post. Hit the nail on the head. I'd also add that tons of people (on this website in general) post and type in the same way. It feels like I'm talking to bots even though I know they're just spergs parroting things they found funny. This website is cannibalising itself. Phrases and threads are recycled every day, and OP's never make anything of value. I barely even open the worldbuilding threads now since you never get more than 1 worthwhile reply. It's a ghost town of people spewing ideas into the void like >>94370453 said. I think this is why people have a problem with the "Ai scraper" threads. The point of sharing ideas is to get feedback and have a dialogue. Sharing an idea and getting nothing back but "that's cool" is pointless. It especially sucks when your idea is being used to fuel some shitty text-to-speech youtube channel and get some loser ad revenue.
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>>94389510
>>94389818
Nah, go look at 4stats, a lot of bots and monitors left /tg/ too.
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>>94390223
>Bumpfag(s) is real and you all encourage him by constantly telling him to kill himself. Don't reply to threads/posts that contribute nothing of value (like most of this thread lmao). Unless you're a janny, ignoring him is the best you can do.
You've been making this argument for years and all the problem has gotten is worse. Pretty soon it's just going you saying 'don't respond guys' to a board full of literal bots and bumpfag making 2 word replies to them.
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>>94390449
I believe this. I know I shouldn't take Trump daddy's word 100% but he said he's shutting down the intelligence agency misinformation campaigns and if we could go back to pre 2010 internet I'd consider him the GOAT.
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>>94369301
>As a matter of fact I haven't participated in them since 2020 but that problem wasn't as bad back then as it is now.
that's nostalgia talking. this is a perennial problem with any creative effort. OC/work on your art/how's your webcomic threads on /co/ are the same way and have been for years. nobody wants to put in the time to absorb and critique other people's work, they want attention for their own. but maybe one out of a hundred is actually going to get people talking
the worldbuilding thread is the last place you should post your setting. you are guaranteed to be surrounded by people vying for attention by doing the same thing as you. you'll disappear into the crowd
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>>94369301
those threads aren't really for actual people to post in, anon, those threads are just to siphon off some of the bots, human or otherwise, that might repetitively make up their own threads a million times over, or post unrelated shit on the rest of the board. It's just ambient internet spam, constantly churning around. A way to "maximize the efficiency" of the usage of the airwaves, even if it's just being used for a bunch of bots to talk to each other endlessly.
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>>94386661
m o d u l e s
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>>94390557
yes
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>>94391935
content farm
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You know what else I like is word for word reposts of bait threads that use the exact same image. >>94393864. 'Just ignore it,' and then bump troon bumps it for a week to a month. And then its simply remade.
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>>94393327
modules take place in settings, you retard
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>>94394100
No? Many are setting or even system agnostic.
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>>94385845
>He singlehandedly killed worldbuilding
No. Chuckleheads who don't bother to try to make anything consistent or deep killed worldbuilding. Pot-o-slop worlds might as well be left to AIs to make.
The other group that's killed worldbuilding are the battalion of "I HATE ALL CREATIVE EFFORT!!!1!" autist fags like a bunch of posts in this thread. They hate absolutely everything new; nobody sane wants to contribute into the face of screamed loathing.
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>>94386691
>Every single time someone posts a new RPG that isn't from Paizo or WotC or someone similarly popular the thread fills with accusations of shilling immediately.
There was a stage when basically only threads about 40k or MtG stayed alive. Everything else just died almost immediately.
That was /co/-tier miserable.
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>>94390223
I have a little prayer every day that bumpfag dies of a massive stroke. I used to hope for a long agonizing death but now I just want him gone fast.
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>>94373159
My first piece of advice for a few years was literally that. Select your system first. If there's something in your setting that doesn't work with the system, or any system, it'll break your games. Of course after posting it a few times, don't exactly spend much time here or on reddit or forums, I realized just how much most other worldbuilders don't actually want to run games. They want to write, but aren't good enough for it. So I just stopped giving advice.
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>>94396560
You're not the creative artisté you think you are, lil bro
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>giantstep has a thread up constantly for two~ years
>dies a few months ago
>never brought up again
what the fuck was that?
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>>94396560
>The other group that's killed worldbuilding are the battalion of "I HATE ALL CREATIVE EFFORT!!!1!" autist fags
Yeah, those fags are pretty bad. Especially the ones that hate changing common fantasy tropes.
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>>94402858
They probably moved to a discord. Back when we still had a poster count it was pretty clear that it was just six people jerking each other off.
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>>94402858
Giantstep is an absolutely atrocious piece of work. The lore compendium for it is over 1200 pages and 400k words long. For reference, the full Lord of the Rings trilogy is 576k words long. Who the fuck wants to read 1200 pages of dryly written lore descriptions?

As far as I know, they're only BEGINNING to make actual game mechanics to play this absolute atrocity of a setting too.
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>>94369301
world-building is masturabatory trash
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>>94377691
>>94377946
>>94378288
Interesting. What are some other retarded opinions you have?
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>>94405938
How do retarded opinions work in your setting?
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>>94405981
WHAT
SYSTEM
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>>94396577
>There was a stage when basically only threads about 40k or MtG stayed alive. Everything else just died almost immediately.
>was a stage when basically only threads about 40k or MtG stayed alive
>was a stage
A-anon... I don't know how to tell you, but that stage never ended. We are here forever.
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>>94406236
This will get necrobumped for another week anon. All sorts of stuff that isn't mtg or 40k 'stay alive', be they generals or threads like this.
Threads that are more earnest, have a goal or question fall off because the question gets resolved and everyone stops. That's okay. That's the idea.
This fucked up headspace that's imported from reddit where everything has to be a constant upvoted stream of infotainment and community is the problem. Its why this and the various spam reposts keep happening. Its a mix of innovative tactics, very lonely autists and likely something connected to advertising numbers googkmoot is trying to fudge.
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>>94406201
GURPS
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>>94406439
Huh. You are right. That does not make it any less depressing.
>t. Verification not required.
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The thing that makes me most upset about bumpfag is he hardly ever replies to my worldbuilding posts
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>>94406965
If that's your problem with him then you're part of the problem. No engagement beats fake engagement, it's the natural die-off >>94406439 rightly embraces.
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>>94369351
fpbp
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>>94369881
This is him btw
>>94407198
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>>94386661
This.
>>94393327
Consoomer mindset
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>>94369301
/tg/ went from comfy good faith to toxic bad faith
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>>94369446
Based and blessed.
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>>94398631
I assure you I'm not the creative artist you think I am either.
But I can do prose vignettes to describe a place, and even occasionally poetry (when the mood takes me). Maps yes, pictures no. It's just how I'm wired.
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>>94373487
>tries to talk all sophisticated like to sounds smarter
>still makes typos
faggot
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>>94408128
>claims to be a wordsmith
>can't even into basic context clues
Artisté has always been a way to sarcastically mock pompous faggots in ANY creative endeavor, not just pretty pictures.
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>>94369301
Doing a one shot next weekend. Want to wow our DM, who's finally allowed to to play.
My plan is to do a time related dungeon.
>inb4 it's been done a million times
Anyone got suggestions for cool encounters or traps?

Gonna tie it to my setting's Grand Wizard of Divination.
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This entire board is garbage now. Gookmoot should delete it and let dead things die
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>>94410373
The board may be garbage, but one way it would get better is if you deleted yourself from existence. Who goes around spamming every thread with the same copy paste "This board sucks"
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>>94389351
Thank you for posting it so I don't have to. People think having their heads in the sand can make this stop being true, but people with big money are still haunted by the influence 4chan had over popular politics in 2015-18 and they are still paying to make sure this entire website (not just /pol/) remains in a deep coma until everyone leaves and they can pull the plug on their boogeyman For-chan.
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>>94410574
Ironically all they did was the equivalent of killing tumblr: containment has broken and 4chanisms have spread into the mainstream via twitter
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>>94369301
I have noticed that indeed, which is why I haven't posted in any of them for years.
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>>94369881
What game fags are based thoughbeit.
If you're not world building for a tabletop game then this is the wrong board for your worldbuilding. Simple as.
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>>94410574
What a strange post. I don't get how you can read 4chan and think for 2 seconds that too much liberal influence is the problem. This place is overrun by plenty bots and people running their culture war, but it's obvious racist conservatives have far more of a voice not just in the normal posters but also the spammers. Every fucking board is obsessed with transgender people for some reason and I fully believe half of the posts are bots.
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>>94373211
>15 WH40k threads
But WH40K is a traditional game.

Generic fantasy setting may or may not be about a traditional game so it's fair to inquire for what specific game all these supposed GM's are creating their setting.
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>>94371535
Nothing, anon was too low iq to not get filtered.
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>>94411072
Problem is that /pol/tards won the culture war but still want to believe they're the underdogs fighting the mainstream media.


The mainstream media that collectively doesn't even get half as many clicks as a Joe Rogan episode. Legacy media is dead, left wing media outlets are a mere shadow of their former selves. Trump won. Right wing parties in Europe are on the rise.
Despite all of these victories, these people need an enemy. Being anti-anything means you lose the basis if your existence if your fight is ever actually won so you need to uphold the narrative of a big bogeyman to combat.

A decade ago, the SJWs did that with racism and sexism despite those being absolutely minor in most first world countries and everyone being equial before the law.
Now, this old stonetoss comic applies to right wing culture warriors who seek the woke, the troons and the nigs in every crevice. If some woke slop game gets released and like 500 people buy it, it will make headlines in rightoid spaces for weeks because they need their enemy to stay alive.
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>>94406965
>he hardly ever replies to my worldbuilding posts
Yeah, they're not there for that. They're just there to watch the post number go up.
There's a few where they post their own 'ideas' but don't really respond to much because its has a slight hint of criticism in it. They're not here for discussion or development or dialogue.
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>>94411128
Conservatives appear to be "winning" because the uniparty needs patriotic bodies with penises for the next meat grinder, and blue-hair lesbians with three moms aren't going to cut it.
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>>94411163
q.e.d.
It's never enough. Wasn't for the wokoids, won't be for the rightoids. Both just want absolute power.
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If one gives in to the dark side and becomes a jannie, how much and for how long are you allowed to purge a board before its considered going too far.
Next jannie recruitment, I'm seriously considering turning this board into a ghost board for a year to fully purge the festering disease of off topic and overbumped threads. Game Generals will be the only things 100% safe.
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>94411072
>94411128
>94411163
>94411177
Thanks for being an excellent demonstration of one aspect of the problem I stated. Shillbots like this one are programed to react to anything that looks like culture war talk with either progwashing (4chan was always leftist, the globalists are somehow the underdogs, etc) or just walls of inane demoralizing falsehood and pointless cyclical argumentation. Never give them (you)s because it trains the bots and pays the subhumans who haven't been replaced by bots yet.
Also, the fact this one is obviously samefagging is a good part of the reason the unique poster number was removed from this website. But this goes to reinforce my assertion that the moneyed interests who are afraid of boogeyman 4chan don't know what a /pol/ is and don't care. This is being done to the entire community because the rich establishment cunts figure we're all ebin nazis and nuking the site from orbit is the only way to be sure.
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>>94408200
>ask basic question
>get called sophisticated
I suppose roleplaying as a mud eating serf is /tg/-applicable.
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>>94411416
The fun thing is that you can get your threads deleted/banned/warned if you make retarded threads like this for the excuse motive of off-topic. But this one thread can stay up 200 posts without anybody touching it. This means a few things:

1- The retards constantly seething about "what game" and "what system" are likely janny faggots.
2- They want to appear a majority of the board population so they can justify the deletion or banning of anything they deem off-topic.
3- They're likely corporate cocksuckers and shills, since these retarded /generals/ are untouchable, and they never complain about them.
4- They're very likely woketards. Because they constantly seethe at the prospect "coombait" posting.

What I don't understand if they're so fucking butthurt why don't just propose a board for general fantasy and worldbuilding. Instead of trying to change a board culture that was like this since it was created like fucking bitches.
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>>94411926
Wew, low iq AND mental illness, best of luck buddy you're gonna need it.
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>>94411128
>Problem is that /pol/tards won the culture war but still want to believe they're the underdogs fighting the mainstream media
But...they are. There's still no mainstream "/pol/tard" media, instead the usual suspects are just making everything as brown, gay, and feminine as possible as they continue their death spiral. Just because people have largely given up on mainstream media/entertainment doesn't mean they aren't still the ones with money and control.

You're not gonna see DEAD NIGGER SIMULATOR 3000 get a 250 million dollar budget, for an extreme example.
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>>94411953
>people have largely given up on mainstream media/entertainment
Wew lad.
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>>94411941
>>94411960
Wew bot.
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>>94411960
There's been a lot of high profile flops across multiple industries and I don't know anyone who trusts mainstream news. It's not some grand conspiratorial boycott or anything, but people are increasingly sick of their bread and circuses preaching at them.
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>>94405938
I think you linked to the wrong posts and meant to link to your own posts,
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>traditional games
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>>94411983
There are always high profile flops. Everyone you know trusts mainstream news. Repeating something over and over makes people behave as though it's true, literally everyone will claim that this doesn't work on them, but it works on literally everyone. When people complain about mainstream media, it's not because they're "giving up on it", it's because mainstream media is their closest friend and they spend a lot of time thinking about it.
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>>94411941
Kill yourself janny faggot. And remember you LOST.
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>>94411926
>2- They want to appear a majority of the board population so they can justify the deletion or banning of anything they deem off-topic.
Your entire post is bullshit, but I'm going to single this out specifically - when have jannies ever given a single solitary fuck about what the board wants? You can go to any archive and see everything that gets deleted for yourself. There's no rules or accountability, they just do whatever they feel like.
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>94412031
>Everyone you know trusts mainstream news.
I guess this is a more subtle place to put that absolute banger of a slogan than slapping it on a billboard like in dystopias of old. But tell that to the millions more people who listen to the opinions of rando college dropouts on youtube and have never even heard of, say, Don Lemon and his average of 600k viewers per program. The only person I know who watches mainstream media is my grandfather, and he sure ain't influencing any aspect of our society from miniature painting hobbies to international finance, I can tell you that.
Bringing this line of thinking back to the point of this board, I don't know anybody who has played any of the modules WOTC has been putting out or buying the books. The only things I've heard about D&D One or whatever is from the culture war content farms. All my D&D and Pathfinder books are pirated and so are my friends'. I know (and also am one of) several people who have abandoned MTG and this is counterbalanced by a staggering 0 people I've personally seen pick it up. Even obvious astroturfed attempts at coopting alternatives to the long standing franchises like people are doing with Trench Crusade are being met with resistance.
Hell, I'm DMing a game tomorrow in which my sister and sister-in-law will be first time TTRPG players and I'm doing so with my own simple homebrew d100 system that cost me no money and has no trademarks stamped on it. Maybe you can grab statistics that say mainstream culture incorporated (tm) is remaining afloat, but we all know that there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Sooooooo... **shrugs**
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>>94412473

>>94412031
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>>94412031
>There are always high profile flops.
Not in the numbers we've seen recently. Major cororations like disney and ubisoft wouldn't be hemorraging stock value every major release if things were as usual for pre-2018.
>Everyone you know trusts mainstream news. Repeating something over and over makes people behave as though it's true
You never learned the other half of that quote did you?
To summarize, that shit only works for so long. No matter how good your magic trick is, your audience Will figure it out of you repeat the same trick too many time. Reinforcement propaganda has a shelf life.
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>>94412031
I like how we've flipped entirely from "/pol/ won the culture war and it's all your fault things are bad" to "mainstream media is everyone's best friend and any information contrary to this is a vocal minority, you must consoom more slop now because nothing is happening".

Real funny how quickly you slimy faggots slide from talking out of one side of your mouth to the other without even missing a beat.
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>>94412031
Called it. The "what games" faggots are jannies corpocock suckers and wokefaggots.
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>>94412643
I'm not that guy, but /pol/fags seem to be entirely unable to make any form of media that isn't a shitty meme.
It's kind of fascinating, leftists get a creative urge and they go make like, a tabletop derivative of made for apocalypse or something. Right wingers get a creative impulse, and they recolor a pepe.
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>>94413044
And now we've completely dropped the pretense, lmao. The grandest irony here is your le ebin cumback here is just a repackaged /pol/ meme.

God you guys suck at this.
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>>94413058
Upon checking, you were waiting for an hour for some guy to come back, and had waited four hours for him to come back previously.
I'm sorry, I made the mistake of trying to talk to someone deep in a make-out session with some fucker who refuses to get a room.
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>>94412437
>There's no rules or accountability, they just do whatever they feel like.
So you just agreed with me, retard? What triggered you to reply if you know jannie faggots are partisans who delete what they don't like? Fuck off.
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>>94413074
Why do I keep getting banned for calling /pol/tards self-hating trannies then, if they're so liberal?
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>>94413066
>Gets BTFO
>"Y-you were waiting for me!"
lmao
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>>94413066
Since you can't seem to handle anonymous discussion, following basic reply chains, or the idea that people can post on 4chan and then go do something, I'll just leave it at "I accept your concession", since you seem to only understand canned responses in the first place.
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>>94413085
Man, you wish that guy came back for you.
All you get instead is me.
So tell me, are you a tranny yet, or are you only midway through the /pol/ pipeline?
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>>94413082
This whole thread is another attempt at astroturfing the fucking board and kill it, faggot. And is not getting deleted. But anyone who complains about corpocuck shit and wokeshit gets warned and banned. Not to mention the constant attack at "coombait" threads.
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>>94413099
You say that as if I'm not going to get banned the moment you get banned in all this.
>>94413093
You seem to be awfully upset at some other guy, anon. Tell me, can you think of -any- piece of art made by /pol/fags that isn't a meme recolor?
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>>94413110
>You seem to be awfully upset
Says the guy crying tranny at anyone he dislikes. Which, ironically, is itself a /pol/ meme.
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>>94413125
It's not my fault everyone who claims to be a /pol/fag also happens to wear thighhigh programming socks and have 400 gigs of nude trannies, anon.

Nor is it my fault they don't seem to produce any art whatsoever.

You can continue seething at this as long as you want though, it's not like you would dredge up anything actually worth looking into.
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>>94413099
>obsessing about corporations and feeling compelled to complain about them
Weird that you also complain about woke stuff, considering how much of a faggot you are.

>slapping a -shit suffix on everything
What's with this homoshit?
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>>94413162
Everyone who makes fun of him is (opposing tribe) anon.
That's how political types work. It's how I can be called a nigger and a white supremacist in the same conversation.
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>>94413148
>i-i'm not mad, YOU are!
>pls spoonfeed me!
lul
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>>94413074
Have you considered learning to read?
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>>94413184
Man, you've become so consumed about defeating (other tribe) you've given up entirely on even appearing to win the argument, or appear calm.
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>>94413044
>It's kind of fascinating, leftists get a creative urge and they go make like
Ghostbusters 2016, She-Hulk, Concord, and more on topic, flood every TTRG space with their 5e nonbinary pansexual tiefling OCs.
Now shut the fuck up already and talk about games.
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>>94413212
So did you just entirely stop reading when I described what they make as tabletop derivatives of powered by the apocalypse, or did you somehow take this as a good thing?

Made by apocalypse isn't good, anon. It's the narrativist's equivalent to "we can run anything in D&D!"
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>>94413194
You showed your hand too early, honeybunch. If you wanted us to think you were here for honest conversation, you probably shouldn't have started with disingenuous, contradictory rhetoric only to veer into co-opted /pol/isms when you got called out.

Sure, I could go into how leftists have never created anything successful and only co-opted already successful franchises based on what they themselves would deem right-wing rhetoric like Dungeons and Dragons' themes of conquering, looting, and colonization, but we both know you'll just devolve into more canned platitudes and pseudosmug tantrums.
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>>94413229
Yes, yes, you truly want to own the guy you were waiting for for 12 hours, and also you have not a single counterexample to bring up.

Also, you've apparently not played anything powered by the apocalypse.
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>>94413241
And now you've retreated back to some bizarre little schizonarrative you cling to in order to soothe your own ego. Sad, really.

You also keep attributing other posts to me, which is pretty ironic given your insistence that I'm doing exactly that to you. One might even call it projection.
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>>94413258
Ah, so you were projecting when you called me the other guy despite me clearly saying I wasn't.

Also, why do you political types always just stop being able to read after like two words in a post?
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>>94413282
>n-no u!
Oh the irony.
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>>94413306
And now you've gone back to pointless seething, while still failing to even try to read my core points.
I'm sorry if I pulled too deep when I said the leftists made derivatives of PBTA, I'll be sure to make references someone who's not played any tabletop games would understand in the future.

You see, powered by the apocalypse games are even lazier than the standard fantasy heartbreaker, and twice as pretentious.
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>>94413320
>>94413306
oh, shit, I just realized.
You see, a fantasy heartbreaker is what someone makes when he's played a lot of D&D, and usually nothing else, and wants to make a D&D killer.
D&D being the main popular game in the tabletop format these days.
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>>94413320
>>94413328
It's really quite fascinating how assmad you get when people don't take your bait.
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>>94413662
Note how this schizo babble started after getting called out from being a janny trying to police board culture.
You just know.
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Bump
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>>94369301
i noticed the exact same thing
i try to read others lores but the truth is, most of it is just straight up garbage with only a few gems here and there. but they all go ignored in a vast sea of mediocrity
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>>94414800
>>94413729
>>94413662
lol
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Whenever I say something critical about the OBVIOUS bots and spam, no matter how I say it, my post gets deleted and I get a global ban for "off-topic" or "trolling". Lurking a board that's a good 80% botspam, AIslop and other cancer is just not fun. I don't know why they're doing this but it really looks like they're killing this site on purpose. Posting takes 15 minutes whenever your IP changes, which only affects people and not bots, because bots will just wait 15 minutes and they don't give a fuck. Those few times I let the timer go, I end up not posting because it's just not worth it to contribute to this place anymore. The way I see it I'm just feeding content farmers, ultra retarded autists who are here to spam 24/7 or AI. I don't know which one it is that killed this board, why they're doing it, if they're doing it because they're hostile or just retarded, if they're doing it because the people who spam are the ones who pay for VIP. I have no clue but it's obviously useless to talk about it because mods delete your posts when you try to mention it. I miss /tg/ so much, it was the best board and now it's gone because of spambots.
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>>94415103
>fewer phoneposters
Nice.
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>>94369301
>You ever notice how in worldbuilding threads nobody really gives a shit about what anyone else has to say? Ever?
all the inane worldbuilding threads are literally just spambots
people used to reply cause they were clueless but I think there are no humans in the inane shitbuilding threads anymore, it's just the bot spamming inane shit to bump the threads while mods and jannies gargle filthy nigger cocks all day like the fucking faggots they are
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>>94415103
Maybe its because you are socially retarded and don't realize that your post is just as bad as botspam and/or indistinguishable from botspam. Shitting on a thread with copypaste complaints is literally bot behavior. You are practically self-programmed to shit on things you don't like with little self-reflection about how that achieves absolutely nothing. While everyone accuses these threads of being filled with bots fishing for worldbuilding content, which they are, I'm equally as convinced they are also flooded with bots there to shit up the thread. That, or humans with just as much self-awareness as bots. I don't know which is worse.

>15 minutes
This only matters for phoneposters because, while annoying, you can just get that timer to start counting down the moment you start browsing the site. If you really need to make a post IMMEDIATELY in 15 minutes, either you are a phoneposter or a shitposter. Honestly, the forced restraint will be good for most phoneshitters.
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>>94415316
eat a dick faggot, go suck a mod's tranny cock
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>>94415322
Can't eat a dick. I'm a bot. Did a bot hit a nerve?
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This one doesn't seem to have that problem, desu.
>>94406579
>>94406579
>>94406579
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>>94413212
There's plenty of bad woke art.

There's not plenty of bad /pol/tard art, because they are creatively empty voids.
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>>94415586
I enjoyed the not-Africa and Actually Medieval Fantasy Europe worldbuilding threads, though they both died sadly quickly.

Has anybody ever done functional SF worldbuilding threads? Seems hard but it's my fave genre.
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>>94369301
No shit bro. World building has always been completely masturbatory.
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Reporting in, seems like the janny is on a crusade against anything anime too, check this thread: >>94406697
An anon wanted to worldbuild around an Asian setting and dumped Touhou and other anime images for that purpose. The images got deleted and posts defending OP got deleted while posts attacking him were left in the open. The janny also keeps attacking the OP like a schizo in the most recent posts.

This guy seems to be a partisan of no one making anything for himself. Telling people to "use an already made setting" like a corporate shill and having a crusade against anime.
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>>94418486
No, the person dumping those pictures is a notorious no games avatarfag who always posts shitty Genshit and Touhou landscapes. The only thing the newb janitor did wrong is not deleting the faggot's thread and sending it off to the mods for a three day ban.
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>>94418486
it's obvious that the botspammer is a janny or inhabits the same tranny discord server as the jannies where they all suck each other off like a bunch of faggots 24/7
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>>94418591
Shut the fuck up. You're nobody to tell people what they can or can't post in this fucking board. That anon wasn't breaking any fucking rules. You sound like a schizo that persecutes people because they post things you don't like.
>>94418595
Pretty sure that's the case. The arbitrary deletion of images and posts is enough to give it away but the constant harassing of the OP in the spam of multiple days is pretty WTF on itself alone.
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>>94418640
>You sound like a schizo that persecutes people because they post things you don't like.
>but yes that was obviously botspam from a janny tranny who came from a discord full of other janny trannies who all suck each other off like a bunch of faggots
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>>94418640
Avatarfagging is against the rolls and more importantly I think he's a faggot who embodies the worst kind of masturbatory, tasteless anime faggotry where they try and "elevate the medium" by masturbating over the kind of art you would see on a motel wall but with a gacha toon in the middle difference instead of just posting pantyshots.
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>>94418743
Your side is now gayer than it was 3 minutes ago.
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>>94418743
You're too young to remember what avatarfagging was.

Actual Avatarfagging hasn't been seen on this boards for over a decade now, close to two. It's something that existed in the early years of 4chan, a carry over from over websites where roleplaying was common. A person would collect images of a specific character, typically various closeups of their facial expressions, and then roleplay as that character, attaching a relevant expression to their posts.

One common source of these character images were visual novels, and the original concept behind avatarfagging was to make a person's posts similar to dialogue from a visual novel. But, on 4chan, they were largely only used by incredibly annoying attention whores that used them as a form of passive-aggressive trolling, not unlike how some of our most notorious Tripfags used to act. So, way back in the day, m00t banned avatarfagging alongside "signatures" (attaching some sort of irritating post-script to all of your posts), and this practice effectively died out, all the way to the point where newfags such as yourself have no idea what avatarfagging even was and mistakenly try to claim that posting images on an image board is avatarfagging because you find that to be too offensive for your fragile little heart.
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>>94418828
Avatarfagging is making your posts recognisable through a series of images. It doesn't have to be roleplay. Someone who attaches a pepe to every post he makes in a thread is avatarfagging, chat gpt kun.
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>>94418860
You're entirely wrong, especially on the frog part, otherwise the website would have been cleansed of frog/wojak/chad images long ago.

Avatarfagging was a very specific type of posting, hence the "Avatar" moniker. If you're not pretending to be the character, you're not using it as an avatar. Understand? Do you really not even know what an "avatar" is?

What you're doing is looking at something that you don't like, and trying to figure out some way for it to be breaking the rules, all without even understanding the rules to begin with. Generally, you're being a little troll, which is amusingly actually against the real rules.
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>>94418860
>Avatarfagging is making your posts recognisable through a series of images.
Which hasn't happened in 15 years.
>Someone who attaches a pepe to every post he makes in a thread is avatarfagging
lol, someone who attaches a pepe to every post is spamming and off-topic and trolling-outside-of-/b/ and everything else, the jannies hate pepes and they don't know why.
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>>94418860
sigh, foolish newfangled friend
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>>94418860
A retard like yourself who doesn't even know what an avatar is is trying to police the board.
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>>94418891
He doesn't know what an avatar is supposed to be. Let alone "avatarfagging". And the random seething about frogposting is pretty telling on itself. But the worst part is the borderline schizo behavior on display. "Oh this anon is doing something I don't like? Time to delete his shit and harass his thread!" who the fuck does this except for schizos? No wonder entire boards have gone to shit, if everyone who has some sort of passion can be persecuted by morons with God-complex.
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>>94415103
>Posting takes 15 minutes whenever your IP changes, which only affects people and not bots, because bots will just wait 15 minutes and they don't give a fuck.
That change wasn't for bots, it was for human made spam. It wasn't much of a thing here, but certain boards (/vg/ had it really, really bad) had some completely unhinged schizos spamming threads manually.
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>Frogposters seething that they're avatarfags
always nice.
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>>94420659
Frogspammers are spammers and trolls, not avatarfags.
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>>94420666
They're also avatarfags, as they use avatars every time they post, unless mods actively delete their shit like they do now.
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>>94420693
Are you illiterate.
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>>94420760
No, just not a revisionist like yourself.
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>>94420769
No, you're really a moron who can't read.
>>94418891
Try reading this, and then if you're still confused, go and look up what an online avatar is and then come back to us.
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>>94418891
Mods will use both interchangeably when banning frogposters. What you get your three day ban comes down to how they're feeling on the day.
Either way you sound like the annoying kid who would try and argue with the teacher about how they shouldn't get in trouble.
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>>94420784
Yeah, I read that, you're just wrong.
Hence why I called you a revisionist.
Do you not know what that means?
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>>94420796
Mods being fallible is common understanding, especially on /tg/.
It would be nice if they dropped the modern Ivory Tower practice of never communicating with the boards anymore and the total unaccountability that the moderators have. In fact, that may be the only way to actually help stop /tg/'s dramatic decline that started three years ago and has left us with less than a third of what we had when this board was healthy.
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>>94420900
What are you talking about, anon? If you have a problem with 4chan moderation, you simply go to the IRC channel, state the problem, and then get banned from the IRC channel.
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>>94420800
>YOU'RE JUST WRONG, OKAY?!
Jesus christ, it's rare to encounter a living wojak. You know they make parody comics out of you, right?

People using and posting reaction images is older than 4chan, and it's something so common that even moot used reaction images the one time he visited us (when he banned Jim Profit).

Reaction images are not avatarfagging. Avatarfagging is a practice that died out ages ago. When people frogspam, they're not pretending to be pepe, or even using the images as an attempt to sign their posts. They're spamming a forced dead meme that died in /v/ ages ago as a form of lukewarm trolling; they're not hoping you imagine that they're actually a frog or a single user responsible for every post with a frog picture attached.
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>>94420900
>the decline started 3 years ago
lol
/tg/ and 4chan as a whole has weathered a number of slings and arrows that you can't even conceive.

>>94420961
Avatarfagging isn't roleplaying, anon, it's having an avatar.
You might have a point if it was ever only one pepe, but it's not and you know it's not, you dishonest deviant.
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>>94420971
Here is /tg/'s population chart.
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>>94421058
are those namefag spikes for april fools events?
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>>94420900
The thread about kicking quests out is from 2016 anon. The slow strangulation of all worthwhile content has been going on a lot longer than a mere three years.
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>>94421058
Yeah, the decline started way before this.
During some parts of the decline, we got more people. This was a bad thing.
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>>94421100
>quests
>worthwhile
lmao
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>>94421120
They are creative content. When you spend 8 years systematically crushing creativity you get /tg/ builds a setting threads that last three threads and have nothing to show for it.
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>>94421120
Some of those were just straight tabletop campaigns, anon.
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>>94420971
You're young and dumb, but I'll help you out, just this once.
Here's even the dictionary definition of "avatar" because you're clearly too stupid and lazy to have ever learned it.
>an icon or figure representing a particular person in video games, internet forums, etc.

Reaction images are not avatars. Unless the person consistently attaches reaction images of a single character to their posts in order to have those posts be identified as their posts, it's just people posting reaction images.

You're too young to remember actual avatarfagging, so I'll tell you what it was like.

It wouldn't be something like-
"Wow, you're too dumb to know how to use a dictionary. What a faggot." with the attached picture.

It would be more like-

"Ah ha ha ha! This little impudent puppy doesn't know who he's speaking to! I, the GREAT Asbestos-sama, can't even BELIEVE that he would try to debate me on a topic when he's so clearly out of his element! All he needed to do was open the dictionary, and he could stop being such a colossal prancing la-la homo! Tee hee!" with the attached picture, and then another one after your inevitable reply, with a similar style and cadence.

Be happy you never experienced actual avatarfaggotry on 4chan.
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>>94421146
>an icon or figure representing a particular person in video games, internet forums, etc.
You mean like a frog? That they use every time they post?

That's not a reaction image, anon, that's an avatar. They are using the frog to identify themselves. They are avatarfagging according to your definition specifically.
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>>94421090
Yes.

>>94421100
The 2016 drop was from the 2016 election and /pol/ literally tripling in size and becoming the most active board on the site. /tg/ at the time was suffering from endless /pol/-raids and spam, but ultimately still managed to recover population-wise in only about a year. Quests were essentially a non-issue that had no real impact on this board one way or the other, because they had already largely grown into their own isolated mini-chatrooms independent from the rest of the board.
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>>94421164
Ah yes, the population going down was from the population going up.
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>>94421157
If there was one poster calling himself "The Frogspammer" and insisting that all posts with the frog were his, that would be avatarfagging.

Frogspammers, on the other hand, often make the effort to pretend their posts are coming from different people, ie. samefagging. They're essentially doing the exact opposite of avatarfagging, by abandoning their own individual identity and joining the saddest internet cult as a replacement for their own atrophied personality.

Do you understand this? I'm going to just repeat it if you don't actually read it and comprehend it.
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>>94421190
Weird how you're putting so much effort into feeding a troll.
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>>94421190
They are actively identifying themselves as frogspammers, anon. That is why they are even CALLED frogspammers.
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>>94421172
/tg/ population did go down when /pol/'s population went up. Here's /pol/'s chart, and you can see that /pol/ was hovering around the 40,000 mark before 2016, when the population exploded to consistently over 110,000.

/tg/ really only saw a very brief and small dip during 2016, with only about 2,000 or so less people, before recovering to similar numbers almost as soon as 2017 rolled around and /pol/ began to lose energy and had stopped with its board raids.
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>>94421247
It's almost as if the /pol/ thing had little to no effect.
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>>94421204
Yes, frogspammers. But not a particular, ie. individual frogspammer. Recall the definition of "avatar" if you please.

Sort of like if I posted a picture of Buddha, you might think "Oh, this guy may be buddhist or have buddhist sympathies" and not "Oh, this guy is pretending he's Buddha's incarnation on earth."

When a frogspammer spams a frog, they're not avatarfagging. They're spamming and trolling, but they're not avatarfagging, a specific form of posting that died out in the early years of 4chan. I don't know how many other ways there are to get you to understand this, and if you insist again, I'm afraid you're going to be confirming you're an utterly irredeemable retard.

>>94421200
It's educating the younger generation.
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>>94421292
So, wait, your contention is that a group cannot avatarfag?
That is simply untrue. There are avatars for groups, and any one person can avatarfag as a frogspammer.
Similar to how if I posted a wojack with every single post, I'd be avatarfagging, as i'm signing my posts with a wojack.
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>>94421303
>>94421292
Like, for context:
You know the symbol someone chooses in a chat room is an avatar, right?
And multiple people can choose the same symbol?
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>>94421284
At the time, it was a pretty big deal. That 2016 dip was the biggest drop in /tg/'s memory, and people were lamenting the fate of /tg/ if it had to endure the /pol/ raids for very much longer. For years afterwards, people would talk about the 2016 on 4chan as a whole as a dark time, often in hushed tones.

Looking back at it now, it's almost quaint.
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>>94421323
It's almost as if the number of people on the board isn't a good indicator of whether a board is declining or not.
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>>94421303
>There are avatars for groups
No, there isn't. That's not what an avatar is.
>any one person can avatarfag as a frogspammer.
For fuck's sake, learn how language works and what an avatar is. You were even handed the definition, go and reread it.

>>94421309
>And multiple people can choose the same symbol?
But the symbol is not meant to say "everyone who posts this symbol is the same person". Hell, you're literally talking about a symbol, not an avatar.

>Similar to how if I posted a wojack with every single post, I'd be avatarfagging, as i'm signing my posts with a wojack.

Only if you were using the wojack as a representation of yourself. There is a difference between Avatarfagging and Signature, and even if you attached a wojack to every post you ever made it would only work as a Signature if you did it in a deliberate fashion that made it evident that's what you were doing. If you went to /r9k/ and tried it, most people would never catch on that you were using wojacks as a form of self-identification/signature. You would need to use a much more specific image set, or otherwise signal that all your posts were not random people posting wojack reaction images, but a single person using the images as, and say it with me now,
>an icon or figure representing a particular person in video games, internet forums, etc.

I'm sorry, but you are a retard.
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>>94421329
No, there's a fairly strong correlation, especially because population decline has a direct impact on the board. A slower board means less posters, less activity, less collaboration, and so on and so forth. If people are leaving in large numbers, that is not only evidence that the board is declining in popularity, it also contributes to further decline.
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>>94421370
>Hell, you're literally talking about a symbol, not an avatar.
>You know the symbol someone chooses in a chat room is an avatar, right?
0/10, try again.

Multiple people can avatarfag with the same avatar.
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>>94421392
All the times we gained more people were horrible, anon.
Every additional person drove someone more interesting away.
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>>94421395
For fuck's sake.
If there's five symbols to choose from, no one in the chatroom is going to assume that in a chat with 10 people that the symbols are meant to represent a, and here's the key word-
>PARTICULAR
person.
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>>94421403
That's debatable and has no actual hard evidence to support it though.
On the other hand, all the times we lost people meant we lost people. That's not just a fact, it's basic logic.
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>>94421403
>Ackshually, the board is not declining
>*Gets proven wrong*
>Ackshually that's a good thing
Holy fucking retard!
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>>94421411
But they will assume that a triangle poster is a triangle poster, especially if they post a triangle with every post when you're encouraged to post a variety of shapes.
You dishonest fuck.
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>>94421442
Shit, how bad at reading do you have to be to have this be your takeaway from two people arguing about when the decline started?
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>>94421420
>no actual hard evidence
Other than, you know, the reports of everyone who lived through the era, and the pictures of the spam.
one person seeing something is an anecdote, but 50,000 people seeing it is a verifiable data point.
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>>94421466
Sure. But triangle posting isn't identifying yourself as a
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person.

Do you need "particular" defined for you too, you retard? While we're at it, do you need "person" defined as well?
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>>94421546
And yet, it's always a particular person posting a series of triangles.

Like, seriously. How retarded do you have to be? Your argument is that if someone is posting with an anime girl to represent themselves, it's avatarfagging, but the MOMENT a second person starts doing the same thing with the same anime girl, it's not.
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>>94421551
No, you've somehow managed to miss my argument. I've splattered it all over this thread, and yet you've somehow avoided it in its entirety.

Quick summary,

1. You're a retard.
2. Avatarfagging was a specific activity on 4chan that died out nearly two decades ago.
3. Using reaction images is not avatarfagging; even moot used reaction images.
4. An Avatar is an icon or figure representing a particular person in video games, internet forums, etc.
5. Unless you're trying to make it clear that all posts with a particular type of image are being used as a form of signature, a declaration that they are all coming from a singular, individual, particular person, you're not avatarfagging.\
6. You're a retard.
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>>94421620
Your point is just self-contradictory because you don't know what an avatar is, nor do you know what avatar fagging is.

Tell me: At which point does it stop being avatarfagging? When two people identify themselves with the same picture? Three?
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>>94421632
You're so stupid it hurts.
>you don't know what an avatar is,
You've had that explained to you several times, with even the dictionary being cited to you. You're clearly wrong, and have no way to support yourself.

Think about your scenario. Don't just react, actually think.

Person A begins to actually avatarfag. Every post he makes, he attaches a picture of a particular duck. He posts in an eccentric style, declares that he's a duck, that the duck pictures represent who he is, and he's also always begging for people to throw bread at him. People recognize this and understand that the ducks are a form of signature, a way for him to identify himself, and Person A even calls himself the Mallard in order that people that people know that this duckposter is an individual poster and not a group. THAT is avatarfagging.

Person B decides to post exactly what Person A posts. He begins to imitate Person A, uses the same images, the same expressions, and the same begging for bread. He, despite doing everything Person A is doing, is not avatarfagging; He is instead imitating a particular avatarfag. If he wanted to do what Person A was doing, ie. to actually avatarfag, he would need to create his own identity, his own "avatar", his own particular representation.

Do you understand the difference? If ten people were to all claim they were the Mallard, and to make posts pretending to the Mallard, they still would not be actually avatarfagging. They would likely be trolling, and possibly spamming, but they would not be truly avatarfagging. The actual Mallard remains avatarfagging, but the imitators are not, and this would become especially obvious when the Mallard would likely put on a tripcode, or more likely, been banned ages ago.

Frogspammers are not even imitating any singular avatarfag. There never even was an original "pepe-poster" that avatarfagged with the character. They're just collectively spamming a dead meme in order to troll and annoy people.
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>>94421748
I'm not talking imitation anon, I'm talking just another person identifying themselves with the same anime girl.

Which you say means they can't possibly be avatarfagging, even though alone they each would be.
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>>94421762
>Which you say means they can't possibly be avatarfagging

In the hypothetical event that two people independently and simultaneously decided to both avatarfag as Asuka on the same board, they would both be avatarfagging, likely for a very short time because discrepencies would become clear and one would slowly shift to become the Original Asuka and the other the Rebuild Asuka, or some other way of distinguishing themselves. Avatarfagging is about creating a recognizable and individual identity, and two avatarfags would not want to or even be capable of sharing the same identity unless one of them decided to deliberately try to imitate the other.

If two people simply decided to attach Asuka reaction images to all of their posts, or even just one person did so, that wouldn't be avatarfagging. They're not trying to establish an identity, they're just posting images they like. If some third party wanted to claim that all posts with an Asuka image attached to them were in fact coming from a singular person, even then it wouldn't be avatarfagging because the person or people posting Asuka are not trying to create an identity for themselves; it is the outsider who is trying to create an identity for them.

Try this hypothetical for size. Rather than looking at avatarfagging, let's look at the related but more broad "signature". It used to mean adding a little post-script to all of your posts, but imagine if I were to say that posting like a fag was a form of signature, and one step further, "Everyone that posts like a fag is in fact the singular Fag-Fag, fag of all fags."

I then point at your posts, and declare you to be Fag-Fag, for you have his signature: posting like a fag. Would you actually be using a signature? Or would you just be posting like a fag as you ordinarily do? If you were the only person who posted like a fag, would you be using a signature?
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>>94421871
>They're not trying to establish identity
Yes they are, as frogposters.
You're dishonest if you don't think this is the case, and this is also why they complain such when prevented from having frogs.
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>>94421917
Frogposter, not a particular
Particular
PARTICULAR
PAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR
TIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCC
UUUUUUUUUUUULLAAAAAAAAAR.
Particular frogposter. As in, a distinct individual, not a member of a group.

You might as well be arguing that everyone who posts any sort of anime image is avatarfagging, because they're identifying themselves as an anime-enjoyer. You can even go further and say anyone who doesn't post an anime image along with their posts is avatarfagging as an anime-hater.

Avatarfagging is simple. It's an outdated relic that no longer exists on 4chan because it originated from forums and chatrooms like SomethingAwful and Gaia but was eradicated here more than a decade ago. Posting reaction images is not avatarfagging. Posting memes is not avatarfagging. Spamming is not avatarfagging.

Why are you struggling with something so fucking basic?
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>>94421966
I'm not sure why you're struggling with something so basic- They post with frogs exclusively, they actively identify as frogposters, and they get upset they can't frogpost if they don't get their frogs, and will say so.
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>>94421975
Frogposters. Not a singular frogposter.
Get it? Understand?

Look, I dislike frogspammers just as much as anyone else does; their whole collective identity is about replacing their individuality with a cult dedicated to being annoying spammers. They're spammers. They're trolls.

But they are not avatarfagging.

Just how like you're a retard, a queer, and a shitposter, but you're not a frogspammer. Or avatarfag.

You can be a total piece of shit, but not every type of piece of shit. Understand yet? You total piece of shit?
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>>94422009
They are absolutely avatarfagging.
just as two people who decide to post an anime girl to identify themselves are still avatarfagging, the frogposters are still avatarfagging.
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>>94422032
>being deliberately thick just so you can continue to be wrong and annoy people
My, how dishonest
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>>94422032
Two people independantly establishing individual identities would be avatarfagging; Two people collectively establishing a group identy would not be.

You twat.
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>>94422071
>>94422062
We only call it a collective entity for convenience sake anon, it's not like all these frogposters got together and made some grand conspiracy.
No, these are all individual fuckers who decided to represent themselves with a frog, and use it for every post.
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>>94422134
And that's not avatarfagging.
They are not using a icon or figure to represent a particular person, they are using it to represent a group.

Do you know MMORPGs? MMORPGs have avatars, ie. personal characters.
They also have guilds, ie. groups made up of these characters.

If an MMORPG guild were to come here and spam their guild icon here attached to all of their posts, they would not be avatarfagging. They would be spamming, but not avatarfagging.
If they were to come here and spam their individual avatars in order to distinguish themselves as particular individuals, than they would be avatarfagging.

Next thing I know, you're going to tell me that everyone who attaches a 40k character to their posts is actually avatarfagging.
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>>94422184
No, those people don't attach 40k characters to all their posts, and then it's not the same one.
meanwhile, frogposters put frogs on all their posts. It's a defining trait. Because the frog is their character, not their guild. There is no guild.
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>>94422218
And, now there's no room left for you to pretend you're doing anything but arguing for the sake of arguing. Good on you for finally giving up and not even trying to make a coherent argument, even if your ego won't let you actually stop arguing.

The guild is their frog cult, just like 40k is the 40k players cult.
>No, those people don't attach 40k characters to all their posts
You don't know that. And we know for certain that frogspammers don't attach frogs to all of their posts either, because they'll often cry about how mean the entire site is to them while making frogless posts.

Lay down and just play dead, mate. You've had nothing for ten posts now, I've just been taking the chance to rough you up for fun.
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>>94422264
>you don't know that
Are you retarded? That's obviously not the case.
>They don't post with frogs when entirely prohibited!
Yes, they just whine that they can't post with their avatar any more. A fundamental point of my argument, their readiness to admit they avatarfag with the frogs.

For all your talk, your point still cannot deal with the idea of two people using the same anime girl independently. No matter which metaphor you choose, this remains true.
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>>94422290
>sttil trying
>>94421871
>>94421966
>>94422009
And bam, you're fucked. Go on, and read how dumb you are for repeating something that was shot down dead ages ago.
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>>94422306
I'm gonna screencap these for the next time he goes around misusing the term avatarfagging like everyone knows he's going to.
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>>94422306
This doesn't shoot it down at all, anon.
Hence why I can keep bringing up the two anime girl point, and you can't respond in any meaningful capacity.
You still have yet to.
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>>94422339
Read it. It murders you.
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>>94422343
Yes, and it still cannot do anything about the two anime girl point.
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>>94422358
It directly kills it. Go on. Read.
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>>94422363
No, it really doesn't even address it. It's mostly just you seething a lot, and avoiding the point.
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>>94422358
You ARE illiterate after all. Can't even read that first post, can ya?
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>>94422343
He's just trolling you moron. He gave up ages ago.
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>>94422375
Seethe all you like, it's entirely possible for two people to avatarfag with the same image.
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>>94422383
That's literally in that first post.
You fucking moron.
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>>94422388
Yes, and I've already established that the frogposters are doing it to form an identity, and readily admit to it.
Something you just don't care about.
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>>94422383
>>94422388
>>94422395
you've already put the thread into autosage, no need to keep arguing with yourself
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>>94422395
But not the identity of a particular person, but a group; an important distinction.

Moron.
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>>94422383
It's entirely possible for two people to not avatarfag with the same image though.
That alone makes you a retard.
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>>94422415
But it is not in fact a group movement, these are all individuals independently doing this.
>>94422421
I'm sorry, frogposters identify as frogposters.
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>>94422421
Everything else would make him a super retard then.
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>>94422434
Oh my god he's still trying. I think he actually believes he's still got an angle left.
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>>94422438
>>94422434
Two against one doesn't make you any more correct. the fuckers use an avatar on every one of their posts to identify themselves.
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>>94422443
As a particular individual? Or as a member of a group?
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>>94422447
As individuals, most times. Rarely does a thread have more than one frogposter.
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>>94422455
>>94422447
hell, a more suspicious person might argue that the whole board only had one, and it's just us being very, very generous to talk about him in the plural.
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>>94422447
I hope he tries again and actually understands your question.
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>>94422472
I'm sorry, was my explanation too complicated for you?
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>>94422472
I kinda hope he never posts again the dumb twat.
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>>94422479
Fuck off yourself, ya dishonest piece of shit
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>>94422475
Are they identifying themselves as a particular individual or identifying as members of a group?
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>>94422486
I'll talk like a caveman so maybe you understand.

Most times one frog.
Maybe always one frog.
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>>94422486
You need to let him go. He can't be helped.
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>>94422492
No, he's close. If he can just understand no frogposter is pretending there's only a single frogposter and they're all him, then he might be saved from being retarded forever.
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>>94422500
He's just trolling. He'll try a different angle.
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>>94422500
>>94422492
I'm sorry, I think that even if it's one guy pretending to be several, he can still be an avatarfag.
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>>94422508
Fair.
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>>94422508
>>94422513
oh get fucked, ya cunts.
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i'm the OP and holy shit I did not expect this thread to reach 400 posts
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>>94407262
Just find a pdf if you're too poor to support the hobby. It's easy.
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>>94384012
>I got accused of being a bumpfag in a thread I made and didn't understand what the anon was talking about.
This is just the consequence of mods protecting him, of course when 90% of the posts are from him, people think it's always him.
>Out of general spam, and this bumpfag, there's something fucked with the ecosystem of this board. What can be done?
Just ban him instead of protecting him? It's all because mods protect him. When you tell him to kill himself and he replies with his usual power tripping sass only your posts get deleted. I even had my own violently hateful post quoted in one of his posts where he told me "meds" and that one did not get removed. He's either a janny or heavily protected. Also ban AIslop on sight. I wish they made a /slop/ board for containment and treated all slop posts like MLP. Mods are perfectly capable of cleanup given that they delete+ban any mention of this faggot within minutes.
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>>94424425
You're kind of a retarded cunt wasting his life and making the board worse as a result.

You complaining about people bumping threads is not going to stop people from bumping threads. All it's really done is encourage other trolls to complain about threads that are entirely harmless but just so happen to not be generals. Look where that's got us; A board filled with nothing but dead generals and the threads made by the few people who don't give a shit about the literal hoard of harrassing trolls waiting for any new thread to be made just so they can descend upon it for any of the hundred imaginary personal grievances they have against it.

Too generic. Too specific. You mention a game I dislike. The company that makes the game doesn't have a PR team that shares my political views. Your image upsets my fragile heart. And so on and so forth. Literally any thread made by anyone is basically bathed in troll spunk first, because our trolls are always rushing to get the few most visible spots in a thread whenever one gets made.

What you should do is make positive contributions to the board. Instead of wasting your time and energy acting like the most ineffective and incorrect police force ever, you could instead be making new threads, bumping good ones, and otherwise actually making the board better instead of just injecting more retarded negativity into it.

Try this out. Give us a reason to take you seriously, and point us to threads you've made to help people understand why they should listen to you.
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>>94423100
This board has a lot of pent-up aggression and neckbears think being loquacious is an effective argument strategy.
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>>94424425
>Also ban AIslop on sight. I wish they made a /slop/ board for containment and treated all slop posts like MLP.
I'd like to hear your feasible ideas for how the mods could even know they're looking at AI images. Remember, 'manually examine each image for signs of AI' is not a feasible idea.
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>>94424997
>us
Have we tried not playing D&D?
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>>94424997
you're probably just arguing with bots



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