Sweet sweet victory screen.

# What happened?

>>3852592

# Did I kill the demon?

# Did I kill the demon?

"No Foreman, You are the Demons!"

>>3852592
># What happened?
Sitrep first. THEN killcounts.

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So we just sacrificed ourselves so our party could escape an ancient fire demon....

Did we just become Gandalf the White?

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>>3852602
(Maybe a bit)

>>3852595
>>3852594
>>3852598

"Did I get it? Did I kill the demon?"

"Uh, we have security footage of you and Chandra shooting at, well, air, but-" That's Aki.

"You did, Foreman." That's Chandra's voice.

"What happened?"

"Mustard gas inhalation. Same as... about 1350 million people. Your implant tripped and gave you a dose of locust ichor. We saved a few people that way, you're the last to come out of medically induced coma." That's Suzanna again.

"I remember... fire, pain..."

"You were not in Hell, if that's what you're asking. You would be insane if you had been. Your body sought death, but death ran away from you." Chloe Steele? What's she doing here?

"All right, he's been in there for six months, he needs a real bath, everyone get out."

You feel weak as a kitten; you're removed from the VR setup. The lights are low and green, so as to not hurt your eyes. The room is tiny; it's some sort of infirmary. It's cold. You're confused. A very large pair of hands holds your back and carries you to a medical cot; a smaller pair of hands massages your extremities to encourage blood flow. Fingers, toes, you feel all of them, good.

"Thank you, Foreman Domai. Best if you go now."

"That'll get confusing, Doctor, please call me by name from now on."

Prick prick prick. Pins and needles.

You look down. It's fuzzy. You try to clear your eyes but you can barely lift your elbows and wiggle your shoulders.

Acupuncture needles, some with electrodes attached to them.

"Don't move."

"Where are we?"

"Ultima Thule. You'll like it."

Thule. Airbase in Greenland. Your instructions were to make the place into

# a great factory.

# a landbound ark, for preserving biodiversity.

# a self-sufficient city of a million souls.

# a self-sufficient city of a million souls.

>>3852607

# a great factory.
Need the ability then capacity, and jobs.
# a self-sufficient city of a million souls.

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>>3852610
>>3852611

(People had voted factory earlier, FWIW, so I'll keep factory unless there's an overwhelming consensus otherwise)

"What else happened" you croak out.

"The sky cleared, but we over here missed summer. In Antarctica it got almost down to minus one hundred."

"Who died?"

"A third of us, minus children, pregnant women, and Remnant. And the people who did what you did, well, some of them anyway. Dr. Robertson. Raman."

"Where's the Remnant."

Petra, mostly. Most of them are in hiding. The Global Council passed laws against persecution, but... well, a lot of people didn't listen. I think they lost as many people as we did, except in their case it was the stupidity of men rather than the cruelty of God.

"Carpatescu?"

"Exactly where you left him, don't worry."

"Tsion?"

"Him, too. He's"

# Here in Thule.
* In a little cell.
* In a VR "cell".
* In a medical coma.

# At the blacksite
* In a little cell.
* In a VR "cell".
* In a medical coma.

# In a jail cell in Bern, for crimes against humanity.

"Witnesses?"

"Still on ice. Well, Moishe, anyway -- the one who died. We managed to separate them... most of them anyway. Eli is in a medical coma, it was the only thing that worked for containment, we just kept him sedated."

# Here in Thule.

# At the blacksite

"Food?"

"As much as I hate to say... less people means less food consumption. We're fine... for now. But we must fix the Earth before we run out of canned beans."

>>3852615
(Factory works for me as well~!)
>Tsion
#At the blacksite... in a VR cell

>Eli
# Here in Thule

Keep him away from Carpatescu

>>3852615
Tison
* In a VR "cell".
*Smashes cirtual controller and screaming at the pixels*

Eli
# Here in Thule.
Glad it wasn't Moshie, that guy wasn't as much of a dick as Eli....

Ask her if she did an autopsy on Raman. Dying by smoke sounds weird to me.

The other subpotentates?

How well did the other regions fair?

Where did the horsemen go?

>>3852615
that picture is mirrored because all the words on the pins and badges are backwards.

>>3852619
I think Raman survived, using Ichor like us.

>>3852623
Sounds like wishful thinking, fairly certain he died.

>>3852626

>"A third of us, minus children, pregnant women, and Remnant. And the people who did what you did, well, some of them anyway. Dr. Robertson. Raman."

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Dr. Diamond sticks more needles in you, some hooked up to what looks like a TENS unit, and the sensation in your body returns, and the cold vanishes. Everything aches, though.

Between heartbeats, you hear a rythmic hum.

In half a year, Greenland has been prospected for resources, and is even now being strip mined as Thule rose from an airstrip into a mighty industrial center. Under Domai's leadership, Synco was deployed to its full capability; Thule is one of the world's foundries, rivaling Shenzen, Tokyo, the Ruhr and Lombardy.

Despite all the disasters, and the loss of population, the machine of the world still clanks along, albeit at a reduced rythm; given everything, if everyone could not afford a cell phone before, they can now.

On the debt side, the volcanic winter did more damage to the ecosystem than decades of industrial exploitation did, and UNDRR and some of the potentates have been scrambling to preserve what's left of the ecosystem.

People have largely moved to cities; the rural areas are being abandoned as the volcanic winter, and the soil depletion, have made it impossible to make a living growing anything. People have entertainment, fuel, heat... but you can buy a handheld gaming console for the price of a fresh salad.

And eventually the cans, all the stockpiles made during the years of plenty, will run out.

Your long-term plans included moving the internet towards a more

# centralized, with large datacenters running remote applications for user terminals

# decentralized, with torrenting protocols and P2P sharing

# VR ready, with promotion of 3D content at the expense of efficiency

model, and you're happy to know that your sysadmins have largely accomplished that goal. Of course, there was no censorship,

# except for extremism
* religious
* political

# period

because that's how it must work.

Carpatescu has been declared officially missing in action, with some hinting that he was killed in the Sixth Trumpet, just by luck of the draw.

Francesca made it; her caring leadership has ensured that the Ecumenical Council stayed relevant. Her major concern is the people's lack of hope: there's enough to live, for now, but little to live for. Will the children of humanity, the most precocious of which are now starting to learn to read and write, inherit a barren wasteland? Fixing the world seems too big of a problem...

The Peacekeeper force has been camped around Petra for months now; the Remnant moved in with the very last of the Sixth Trumpet ghost cavalry, a localized earthquake opening up a giant sinkhole that swallowed the bodies shortly afterwards. Sukhail launched a bunker buster missile in retaliation, but all it achieved was open up a subterranean spring where it landed.


>>3852621

(Intentional)

>>3852628

(Sorry, messed up the English there. Meant that Robertson and Raman died)

# decentralized, with torrenting protocols and P2P sharing

#Period

>>3852634
# centralized, with large datacenters running remote applications for user terminals

# except for extremism
* political

Did anyone investigate the spring in the Euphrates that opened up when the Horsemen showed up?

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The situation in Petra is... surreal. Chaim Rosenzweig is in charge; William Cameron managed to convert him, after all, and he now sits at the head of a council of elders there. The original archeological site is now merely the entryway to a vast network of underground tunnels, vaults, and chambers.

It is divinely protected; within a spherical, invisible cupola centering roughly under the entryway, the laws of physics have effectively taken a vacation -- the only thing that goes through is the desert wind, and the massive point-to-point wireless link.

Remnant outside of there aren't being actively persecuted (most of the time), but they are actively discriminated against -- Tsion's last fatwa, which he managed to transmit before you caught him (Did the horsemen push the enter key? Was there a timeout?) equates smartphones held in the hand, and nomenklators held on the head, with the "mark of the beast". It's a heck of a stretch, of course, but most Remnant went with it, with the result that anyone with a flip phone these days gets at the very least wary looks. The cashless system never was made mandatory, of course, although these days most everyone takes e-payments; that's enough for Chaim to rail against it.

The former botanist, now having taken to call himself Micah, went through the same ordeal as you, and had a crisis of faith about six weeks ago, culminating in his conversion; how he made it to the head of the council of elders in Petra so quickly is still being investigated.

Rayford and Chloe were let go by Dimmsdale when it became politically untenable to hold them, since their lawyer managed to paint their detention as official anti-Remnant persecution.

During your absence, Network Nodes and Synco systems have been built everywhere, as per your instructions; Yang has been pushing for his own intranet, and for splitting the Global Community in general, with Lal pushing instead for unity. As the potentates of the most populous regions, they've essentially aligned the Council on a two-party axis, with the occasional stalemate.

Pope Mathews is, in fact, still Pope, although he's basically under house arrest and the Catholic Church is being run by his cabinet until he finally decides to die; you're mildly surprised that the demon horsemen didn't take him out.

As per your standing orders, once the skies cleared, CATS spent their effort wrapping up the

# ground infrastructure, as fast as possible

# ground infrastructure, with gap generators on every pylon

# satellite infrastructure, using cheap microsats in vast swarms

# satellite infrastructure, using a large quasi-station per territory

# ground infrastructure, with gap generators on every pylon

>>3852645
># ground infrastructure, with gap generators on every pylon

The ones with long range effects but not very strong.

>>3852645
You know what would really troll them? If we introduced more tech that resembled the mark of the beast, until we get to RIDF chips under the skin. Then we completely cancel the tech and revert back to thinks like credit cars and phones.

So if Chloe's here in Greenland, does that mean she's defecting to CATS? Because I would certainly welcome this.

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>>3852643

It's a spring; it's clean. The Euphrates has since been allowed to flow again, in order to preserve what little agriculture could get done in the formerly Fertile Crescent.

Effincold and Thule have gotten themselves in a bit of a productivity race, each manager -- Domai and Andrews -- wanting to showcase the benefit of their preferred ideology... however, by and large, the world doesn't seem to care much.

The prophecy timeline has been mostly cleared, although Chaim insists that in three years Christ the King will appear and heal the world. He supports his message standing on his fame as the inventor of the Eden fertilizer, and on the promise of fertile fields forever that he's hired artists and filmmakers to make.

Chaim's message is more poetic and metaphorical than Tsion's insistence on literalism, in large part due to the fact that thanks to you a literal interpretation of Revelation is no more tenable than a history book in which the Confederacy wins the war... although alternate history is really popular these days, in writings, games, or film. People have been through too much, and want escapism.

In a year, the food will start running out.

In two, the last series of supernatural events, the Bowl Judgement, will begin in earnest.

In three, the Glorious Appearing will take place.

The Garibaldi is currently in drydock, for a much needed cleanup and upgrade.

(Pick two)

# Full nuclear propulsion, by replacing the gas turbines with four more copies of the "John Galt engine"

# Elongated deck, with catapult and arresting gear, to work with modern airplanes

# Spinal sled acting a both a catapult and as zeroth stage for high precision medium range missiles

# Widened deck and double hull, to allow for two modules at the same time

# Dedicated drone bay

>>3852647
>>3852648

GCASA has done their best to establish a space telescope infrastructure, and they have succeeded, to a point; you will have to work with them to rebuild space capabilities.

Some amount of research got done, although your instructions were to focus on reconstruction (and the Global Community council bullied your workers a little).

>>3852650

That's a viable plan.

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>>3852647
>>3852648


The decrease in population has brought on a decrease in bandwidth requirements; you had a contingency plan for this. All CellSol pylons that operate on-grid have a built-in gap generator. The new designs have been trial-and-errored iteratively after being generated by genetic algorithm, and while this allows the pylon-generator combinations to work relatively well, it translates to a bit of strangeness when it comes to the analog parts of the design.

Oh, and then there's the, well, miracles. "Best if Francesca explains this one" your people agree; they've been in and out of the room providing exposition for a couple hours now, while the acupuncture does its thing.

>>3852655

Chloe is currently in San Diego; ICCO is still active, and has been the whole time, but more as an import/export and peer-to-peer credit consortium. Interestingly, its evolution means that a lot of the negative Jewish stereotypes have been shifted to the Remnant -- look at them, living the post-scarcity life in their divine city while the rest of us work our behinds off, that sort of thing.

>>3852656

Other than the fact that literally all your lieutenants have seen you almost-naked by now, the situation seems to be at least metastabe. Dr. Diamond and an assistant start taking off the needles, and in about 15 minutes you're finally able to sit up, with some effort and a tremendous headache.


# Ask about anything I didn't cover.


The people need food. Hope. Freedom from fear.
>>3852639
>>3852640

(needs tiebreakers)

>>3852656

>He supports his message standing on his fame as the inventor of the Eden fertilizer, and on the promise of fertile fields forever that he's hired artists and filmmakers to make.

That's rich considering the fact it was his formula that screwed everything up.

# Full nuclear propulsion, by replacing the gas turbines with four more copies of the "John Galt engine"

#Dediated Drone Bay

Eh, I'll support:
>>3852640

>>3852656
When you say drone bay, do you mean like drones that can carrier precision guided munitions?

Also we should release Tison or let him make video rants from time to time just to hurt their credibility.

>>3852661
Hold yer horses now, multiple modules sound really useful, would it be possible to change half a module, and how much would it cost us to switch around the modules?

Also what can't it take modern planes as is? Or do you mean VTOL, cuz if thats the case, we may as well get Harrier Jets

Is Robertson's understudy, the former prisoner from stealing nuclear fuel, still alive?

Also what is the status of Schorpe's beatification?

>>3852639
Backing

>>3852659
Did we put all the important people on ice?

Did we take a closer look at Raman's death?

Are all the subpotentates alive? (Did we find the bodies of Terry and Walid?)

Are the Peacekeepers still around much and do they still follow the CLUlt?

Did that science guy who was researching the bug venom survive?

(OOC note: we're in the endgame now, with only a few problems left to solve, and then if you want, a big fight at the end.)

>>3852673
>>3852661

(Not wanting to be a butt but centralized v/ decentralized, and no censorship v/ any censorship, is a thing that will change the ending, so please pick at some point!)

>>3852668

Philippe Jospin is alive and, in the mess, has reconnected with the family. They were so glad to know that he was alive that the details didn't matter much.

Beatifications and sainthoods are stalled, largely because they need direct papal approval and Mathews is being a stubborn turtle about it.

>>3852663

Making use of Tsion in that capacity is definitely possible!

The dedicated drone bay is intended to transport 80% assembled drones, put them together on the fly, and launch them from a side catapult independent of the main flight deck. The logic of this is that if a drone with, say, cake-carrying capabilities is needed, one can be put together from existing modules quickly and launched in a minute.

>>3852666

(Nice trips)

The Garibaldi is too short to land, say, American carrier-based fixed wing fighters. Extending the deck and adding magnetic brakes would allow her to operate with them. (after some avionics work to allow for precision landings).

>>3852661

Some entrepreneurs and self-styled innovators just have a sort of reality distortion field around them. Crazy, but sometimes reality is unrealistic...

>>3852677
Can't we just put some in storage and if needed we send a guy up and deploy one from the hold and have the control operate from the CIC or Island?

Heck, we can put a hundred of them on deck attached to magnetic clamps or a clamp lock ring thingy for quick deployment.

and the deck modules?


>(Nice trips)
>>3852599

I'm more adamant at keeping the net censorship free, as its part of our cultural identity. I'm ambivalent about servers.

Would Philippe Jospin be interested in carrying on his mentor's work?

>>3852684
What is to stop a powerful news or media corporation from push lies and propaganda non stop, regardless of how harmful the information or the negative social, cultural, or political effects are?

>>3852677
>Jospin
wasn't that the female guard?

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>>3852676
> Did we put all the important people on ice?

No, just Eli. Why would anyone else be in cryopreservation?

> Did we take a closer look at Raman's death?

Same as one third of humanity -- a bunch of mustard gas, with traces of nastier stuff like nerve agent, appeared in his lungs.

People are understandably afraid that some other unstoppable calamity will happen in a few years, as was with the Rapture and this...

> Are all the subpotentates alive? (Did we find the bodies of Terry and Walid?)

Yes, although Pravin Lal's wife died. Terry April's body was not found, but Wahid's was. Vega had one of the femurs made into a ceremonial scepter.

> Did that science guy who was researching the bug venom survive?

A few people survived by locust-ichor injection, same as you, yes. Some did not, dying immediately after their nervous system fixed itself.

>>3852681

(If that's how you want to flavor the drone bay, sure. I thought an onboard assembler would be cooler is all)

>>3852684
>>3852685

(Y'all tell me! And... who guards the guardians?


(map is WIP)

>>3852659
Also would it be possible to have two of the same configurations on at the same time, like Cargo/Cargo for extra capacity?

>>3852686

Blanche-Neige Jospin is also doing well, yes. It was lonely up north, eh?

>>3852688

There isn't a whole lot of point, honestly, but it can be.

>>3852685
If it's more centralized that makes it easy for a single powerful group to do all those negative things. With a decentralized model, dissenting voices always have room to speak

>>3852687
>Raman
I thought you said smoke asphyxiation?

How did Robertson and Raman die?

Did any of the measures that the subpotentates come up with work? Like Scuba diving etc?

Did we ever figure out the pattern they were killing people based on?

>>3852692
You can drown out the smaller voices easily, and if you have more smaller voices shouting and screaming the same thing you can turn the minority into a some that no one can hear.

WHat's to stop people from harmful slander for the sole purpose of getting someone hurt or killed? Lets say you publicly star at making misinformation that someone was a rapist or pedo, and kept spamming it all over the web with a persons personal information, address and name?

We mainly didn't censor the Remanent cuz our character is American and to throw off the prophecy.

>>3852696
I don't think the solution to libelous speech is to centralize and censor communication. That is the sort of solution that ends up making worse and more problems that become harder to solve once the central power becomes compromised.

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>>3852696

Other than the excluded groups (Remnant, children, pregnant women, people with locustbite) there didn't seem to be a pattern, by and large. You and you, live. You, die.

Dr. Hamish Robertson and Raman Vajpayee died of various toxic substances being phased into their lungs by a demonic horseman.

The measures taken worked to varying degrees; the one that worked best was locust ichor injection. Diving only worked at some depth. Being on a plane worked some of the time but not all.

>>3852701

Yang has been pushing for internet censorship; Lal against. They're both smart enough to not want to step on your turf, of course.

>>3852687
Did we downgrade our covert opts to security?
They can be official now, lets call them Combat teams. (except black opts.)

Maybe we can recruit lower quality guys to fill up manpower gaps and call them security teams.

ST=Security Teams
Good for protect, guarding stuff and general fighting.

CT=Counter terr- I mean Combat Teams
Some of our best fighters and infantry, basically special operatives.

B.Opts= Black Operation team
As good as CT in skill and quality.
Not as good in terms or morality.

>>3852687
ROBO ANTI JESUS ZOMBIES!

Robo zombies vs Holy zombie.

Who wins?

Find out on next episode of Deadliest Warrior!

>>3852656
# Full nuclear propulsion, by replacing the gas turbines with four more copies of the "John Galt engine"
# Widened deck and double hull, to allow for two modules at the same time

>>3852701
How different is it from today with free speech and rights?

We can put form an ability to petition and have something removed and censored after judgment and passing courts.

>>3852705
I mean what was Robertson and Raman doing at the time? holed up or like outdoors shooting a electric ray gun and a regular gun?

>>3852685
Fear that the telecomms 'security' people will decide that their misinformation is deleterious to network platform stability.

Since we have the sword of Sir Pratchett, it is only fitting to quote Vetinari, "For after seeing what you have done given nothing at all, I would hesitate to press even a penny to your hand."

>>3852687
Decentralized, no network censorship. Possible occasional client-side maintenance of the integrity of informational space.

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>>3852718
>>3852707
>>3852701
>>3852696

You've made sure CATS sticks to its mandate and promises, and you've promoted the decentralized nature of the network: should something horrible happen to the high bandwidth fiber cables that constitute the internet's skeleton, like another global quake, the wireless systems would keep functioning.

This gives you an excellent ground to stand on when dealing with both Lal and Yang, simply because you've stuck to your guns.

>>3852711

Vajpayee was working out who he could spare sending to help the people of San Felipe bury or at least stack their dead. Robertson was in the deepest level of the neutrino observatory; oddly he died with a smile.

>>3852707

(They aren't very covert anymore is all)
The Garibaldi will be ready to sail in a few weeks; one of the things that the people of Thule wanted to do to demonstrate their superior craftmanship and machining skill was building large-scale Stirling radiothermal generators, the closest thing to nuclear reactors that can be manufactured with the current understanding of physics. The original was taken off the ship and meticulously copied, then five of the copies installed instead of the original gas turbine pairs and auxilliary generator.

Cpt. Marko Dessy can't wait to take her out on nuclear power; a bust of Cpt. Steele has been mounted on the bridge.

The addition of a drone bay technically makes her air wing greater in numbers than the American supercarriers of the pre-Carpatescu era; the regional potentates have taken notice, and since they are limited by mutual agreement to one active warship of significant tonnage, they're wanting to get the most bang out of their nick.

-----

The first person from outside CATS to know that you're back in the land of the conscious is Carla; she wants to see you as soon as she can.

UNDRR has had to deal with the monumental tasks of handling a billion corpses; most were cremated, and their ashes scattered according to the families' desires -- although Carla pushed that they help Earth's fields and meadows recovered. Yang was surprisingly helpful in that sense, declaring "It is every citizen's final duty to go into the composting tanks and become one with all the people."

The hard part for her has been convincing people to lay fields fallow until the volcanic winter has dissipated, instead of trying to wring a bit of agricultural production from them.

To put it simply: after the last depopulation wave, the potentates are competing for citizens, and trying to do every little thing to persuade people -- especially skilled people -- to move into their territories.

Now that fresh fruit and vegetables are a rarity, and the time is soon going to come when cattle feed will run out, making meat cheaper than it's ever been for a brief season and then once more a luxury, low (or at least less punishing) prices for such things have become one of the perks that can be offered.

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>>3852735


Everyone can have a smartphone or a game console or a semielectric bike or a pet drone tank or an afternoon at the beach; what's become precious now is the access to barbecue without spam, pizza without government cheese, a swim where there's actually fish to see, hunting with real bullets instead of with laser/camera guns.

To her credit, Chloe has resumed Project Penguin after she was let go, largely because Domai and Andrews, in a rare show of unity, told her that she got what she wanted and she should deliver, otherwise what is ever the point of getting contracts down in writing. To her shame, it's not doing very well.

Part of it is that shortly after Tsion was locked up, she gave birth, and understandably enough her baby became her whole world. Kenneth Bruce Cameron is healthy, vivacious, and joins almost 200 million children of the Tribulation.

Which, alas, is not enough. Carla confirms that with the current situation -- people have enough to eat, but it's not healthy stuff -- humanity is on the decline, to the tune of approximately six million people a year. And it will get worse once the canned goods run out.

The fields have to be allowed to recover, but inter-regional competition for manpower makes it difficult. For the long term, your recommendation will be focusing on (Pick two: 2nd most voted becomes secondary focus)

# vertical farming: large, automated greenhouses that serve cities directly.

# aquaculture: algae will have to substitute for vegetables.

# autarky: it's time to go back to victory gardens in the backyard, replace lawns with berry bushes, give each kid a tree to care for.

#

>>3852748
# autarky: it's time to go back to victory gardens in the backyard, replace lawns with berry bushes, give each kid a tree to care for.

Butter or Guns?

# vertical farming: large, automated greenhouses that serve cities directly.

>>3852748
# autarky
# veritical farming

>>3852748
# vertical farming
# aquaculture

Autarky means there's less time for specialization, each person would have to spend part of their day farming. They wouldn't get as good at farming as professional farmers, and they would have less time to do the thing they are good at themselves

We are not yet at the point where owning a pet is a luxury, but that will come, inevitably. Some regions of the world have adapted readily: people who know how to cook guinea pig are one of Chile's most prized exports (the little buggers can eat almost anything), there's a lot of research going on on fast-growing weeds like kudzu to use for soil reclamation and erosion prevention, and Indian cattle breeds, optimized for milk production rather than meat, are rapidly taking over the cow markets so as to get the most of every single animal.

Incidentally, PETA has petitioned for joining the Ecumenical Council, but so far they've been told to take a hike.

You're not an agricultural expert -- Carla has plenty of those on staff, and so do the regional potentates, but your opinion is that people who can afford it should

# flex humanity's R&D muscle and work on vat-grown meat; it will be the most sustainable option in the long run.

# look to the sea; fish is easier to raise, and nobody can afford to care about wild-caught versus farmed anymore.

# handle things locally; our grandparents raised bunnies and chicken in the back yard, and so shall our children.

#

>>3852756
# flex humanity's R&D muscle and work on vat-grown meat; it will be the most sustainable option in the long run.
Fish still eat algae, and if the environment is fucked, fish die too
Local production means less specialization of our workforce, efficiency is reduced.

>>3852756
# flex humanity's R&D muscle and work on vat-grown meat; it will be the most sustainable option in the long run.

If there is anything left over, I know a guy who has a bunch of chickens in his backyard. Kinda neat and fun.
# handle things locally; our grandparents raised bunnies and chicken in the back yard, and so shall our children.

>>3852756
># flex humanity's R&D muscle and work on vat-grown meat; it will be the most sustainable option in the long run.

Much as i personally am enough of a savage to enjoy knowing i consume death, a devastated earth needs sustainability first. Japan's once-thriving Ramen Cuisine Culture is proof enough that whatever we have to do to survive, someone will someday soon find a way to make it taste good.

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>>3852762
>>3852762
What do you think your doing!?
Ya dooble dipping wankar!

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(If it wasn't painfully obvious, these parameters are being used to generate the next scenario)

One issue that has resurfaced is that of inequality: Litwala owes his reign to you, but now he's started complaining about slow internet speeds. On the other hand, you've noticed that up to a point, interconnectivity has a supralinear effect on R&D speed.

For the next while, you resolve to

# equalize bandwidth availability across the globe

# maximize improvement efficiency regardless of fairness

There is also the matter of your space policy: you have to repair the damage caused by the various volcanic plumes.

You've developed designs that allow for cheap micro satellite deployment, and by now your "big" satellites can carry a variety of components.

Comm arrays, high resolution cameras, orbital network nodes, orbital PKE meters (they're not precise at all, but give you a good early warning system and tell your field teams where to start looking), even deployable thermobaric warheads with precision landing systems. By using Thule's industrial capabilities you can even launch a "satellite" that is in fact a uranium hydride bomb, plus what aerodynamic capabilities it needs to come down on target.

Microsatellites can't do any of these things, but are unmatched if your interest is high bandwidth and low latency at low cost: the regional potentates are going to be grateful (and they're also not going to be able to deploy antisatellite weapons any time soon since the swarm would be too large).

# Focus on microsatellites, and launch a few large sats, one per region for example.

# Focus on large sats, one per territory, and sprinkle microsatellites to cover the gaps.

Your weaponized sats, if any, will be tracked separately, of course.

>>3852767
# Focus on large sats, one per territory, and sprinkle microsatellites to cover the gaps.

Micro satellites where a easy fix to big problem we couldn't address with large ones.

>>3852766
having a browser glitch that it keeps taking me to an error page when i try to delete the duplicate.

>>3852770
I'm just FUNposting outta boredom.

>>3852766
( Butterlord!)


>>3852780

(Sorry if this is boring, I'm trying to figure out what you're going to the final fight with... and since you are taking most of the planet, well.)

Ecology preserves are being set up by every regional potentate, according to their means -- now that it's hard to afford keeping pets (funny; people thought it would be a problem with overpopulation, and now with less than three billion people on Earth, here we are) zoos have become all the more popular. And they have to be made sustainable.

Litwala took advantage of wildlife tourism to effectively impose the death penalty for poaching, which caused all sort of short term problems for him until the surviving poachers turned on each other, and then those who survived that realized that they could make more money in the Impi.

You have every plan to set up your own preserves, but think that in general the management of said preserves -- everyone wants to save the pandas, nobody cares terribly much about the sarcastic fringeheads -- should be handled by

# a new global agency with that mandate specifically

# UNDRR

# UNESCO

# each regional potentate

>>3852787
I was Ransom Lord for much of the game.

Bored as in waiting in between posts, and unable to sleep.

# each regional potentate
With help of course

>>3852787
>(Sorry if this is boring, I'm trying to figure out what you're going to the final fight with... and since you are taking most of the planet, well.)
And then Omega and the AC Ship land.

>>3852787
# each regional potentate

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Chaim is identifying you as the Antichrist, for the following reasons:

* You might have Roman ancestry.

* You are celibate.

* Smartphones and headsets to him count as the mark of the beast.

* You have brought about a unified world via diplomatic means, through the internet.

* You have claimed to be God at least once. (He doesn't know that you messed with Folgore's head, but that sort of story circulates, of course)

* You have displayed miraculous powers. (Rumors about you having supernatural stamina exist, although the heart implant is still largely a secret; Klaue's is thought to be a prop)

* You are on friendly terms with the whore of Babylon (either Moira or Francesca)

* You have come back to life. Surviving the Sixth Trumpet Judgement the hard way is definitely close enough for his more forgiving interpretation. He also claims that the demon that got you was Satan, and has now possessed you.

* You have global authority. In a "soft power" sense, you do.

* You have desecrated God's temple... apparently dislodging a couple of bricks from the Wailing Wall counts.

Approximately sixty per cent of the Remnant agree with Chaim/Micah (as he has taken to calling himself); those who disagree point out that you're a man of your word when it comes to dealmaking, also, you haven't built a global army, quite the opposite if anything. There's also the fact that some of Chaim's claims are dubious at best.

Chloe thinks that since you fooled her and Tsion into thinking you were a Christian, you might be the False Prophet, but she also believes that you are not beyond salvation.

If you want to undertake any undermining campaign for these claims, you may do so.

# Write in; semi-releasing Tsion, in that he gets go to online, is an option since he still believes Carpatescu is it

On that note, is there anyone else you want put in VR confinement at the black site? Those who are offline can be connected to each other, or left in isolation.

# Make a bid for grabbing Fortunato, or not.

>>3852800
>>3852796

Most of the ecology preservation will be handled by the regional potentates; this bit of decentralization also increases competition for doing a good job, or at least being seen to do so -- for the first time in a long time, the mighty of the earth are beholden to the people by simple market forces, since there is a shortage of manpower for everything and all borders are open.

>>3852805
Well I did decentralization since different regions will have different animals, climates, species, etc.

Leak a low resolution picture of Carpatescu playing VR tennis?

No, but I do want to put the Morale monitor in the grave.

Maybe have Tison and Carpatescu Interact online for the lulz.

Show him the crazy new tech we are rolling out that won't be considered the mark of the beast since you got everyone into thinking it was headsets and phones.

experiment on Eli with his bullet transparency.

>>3852805

> If you want to undertake any undermining campaign for these claims, you may do so.

# See if Santiago wants to leak a sex tape? We're the king of the internet, that's how the internet does things.

# Check ourselves with a PKE meter, and at least dispel doubts internally or start running experiments. DO we have a head Satan? I assume not since we didn't actually die, but let's test it.

We don't need Tsion. Hell, we could even just impersonate him if we really wanted to. Mind control men are not wanted here.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyzVA8Z9xI

For a while, there's nothing to do but everything: a horde of small but necessary projects eat up all your time, no matter how much you manage to delegate.

Your security forces find themselves likewise engaged in a million small issue to handle: protecting UNDRR workers as they spread the phosphate rock that used to constitute the island of Nauru, busting hackers -- incidentally, the Aki doppelganger seems to be gone; either they are lying low or they lost the Sixth Trumpet lottery -- intervening in land disputes, even occasionally have to protect Remnant.

Neall Ellis even complains, in good humor, that he should have taken a steady paycheck from you rather than working contract!

Moira participates in another of Vega's tournaments, getting past the cutoff point where she would be eligible to work for him, but refusing the job. There's a small kerfuffle over the rules when one Muay Thai fighter is found to have titanium shin implants ( http://fightland.vice.com/blog/a-muay-thai-fighter-was-suspended-for-having-titanium-shin-implants )

Carpatescu seems to have made his peace with having become a myth in his own lifetime... or so he acts like, anyway. He reads, writes -- this is one thing you do have to censor -- and generally tries to stay sane.

"According to Tsion, I should be dead, a walking corpse held up to false life by Lucifer. I prefer thinking that I'll get out of here in a few years, do physical therapy, and see what the world you've created has to offer someone like me.

Tsion on the other hand is, to put it bluntly, angry. He's requested, and read, almost every piece of Protestant theology from Rev. Jonathan Edwards in 1741 onward, trying to find where his mistake was. Every time he has an audience, he just warns them of impending dooms that are to come, and more that can no longer come. You're genuinely worried for his mental health.

Connecting the VR prisons of these two together is pretty tempting, isn't it?
Speaking of prison, your prison population hovers at around 20, mostly poachers or hackers who are eventually let go. Your experience is that as soon as the population of Remnant hits around a quarter of the total, a cascade of conversions occurs, even now. As far as you can tell, Remnant Christians are safely below that threshold globally, topping out at fifteen percent or so; granted, there could be secret believers. You tested this by letting the prisoners talk to Tsion via terminal, and determine that he "counts" for about 2 to 5 people.

things to decide:
----

# equalize bandwidth availability across the globe

# maximize improvement efficiency regardless of fairness

----

# Focus on microsatellites, and launch a few large sats, one per region for example.

# Focus on large sats, one per territory, and sprinkle microsatellites to cover the gaps. (1 vote)

----

# tactics to keep the remnant splintered

---

>>3852843
# equalize bandwidth availability across the globe

>>3852831

You haven't had sex with Santiago, though (Or really anyone since this whole mess started).

>>3852811

The Morale Monitor guy's usefulness ended a long time ago; what will you do with him?

Connecting the containment systems for those two would be interesting, and you can definitely release a transcript after sanitizing it; you can even claim that the Carpatescu in there is the one that some of the Peacekeepers worship. Carpathianism has made it into the Ecumenical Council, but it's less popular than, say, Greco-Roman revivalism amongst the general population (though not with the Peacekeepers, although hirings and firings are diluting the percentage some).

A few experiments on Eli are authorized: Moishe's body seems to be susceptible to bullets just fine now. Eli... not so much. People either miss incredibly easy shots, or the bullet just goes through. Replacing the material seems to do nothing.

Testing DEWs would not be safe because he'd thaw.

What's creepiest is that he is literally covered in ice and fed intravenously on a starvation diet, and he still hasn't died. People are starting to joke that you could make a Friday the 13th series on this guy.

>>3852850

Yes, I know, I'm propositioning her.

# equalize bandwidth availability across the globe

# Focus on microsatellites, and launch a few large sats, one per region for example.

# tactics to keep the remnant splintered - encouraging the other faiths on the EC to strengthen their own communities in the face of adversity. Failing that, if they start to get powerful, terror tactics, create an entirely false Remnant splinter group that we can pin things on.

If millions have to die so billions don't, I'd rather the blood on my own hands.

>>3852843
># equalize bandwidth availability (per capita) across the globe

# Focus on large sats, one per territory, and sprinkle microsatellites to cover the gaps. (1 vote)

# tactics to keep the remnant splintered
Get someone to make, as close as we can determine, a biblical 'changelog' document, from the Dead Sea Scrolls forward. In devnotes format, with version numbers. Make sure that this is sent to all schoolchildren within the Remnant enclave, with a subject header of "Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Re: I can't stop laughing at this cat."

>>3852843
# equalize bandwidth availability (per capita) across the globe
# Focus on large sats, one per territory, and sprinkle microsatellites to cover the gaps.

>>3852850
>You haven't had sex with Santiago, though (Or really anyone since this whole mess started).
Is it time for us to get a WAIFU???

>>3852843
# tactics to keep the remnant splintered
Show various Remanent terrorists like that guy who showed up to the mall trying to get people stung.

>>3852805
>You are celibate
Are we or is he just being a dick? >>3852843
>equalize bandwidth availability across the globe
>Focus on large sats, one per territory, and sprinkle microsatellites to cover the gaps.
>tactics to keep the remnant splintered
Release a sex tape with a prostitute and let Tsion post a rant every now and again.

>>3852850
WHAT? WTF! YOU LIED TO US!

We had sore ribs from the Greece date!

And Carla wanted to see us ASAP!

Its like you only wanted us to sex up that Whore witch.

>>3852864
Carla and Santiago are priority number 1!

Everyone else comes next, we have Demolition man style virtual sex with aki even!

>>3852853
>>3852856
>>3852860

You don't want a homogeneous world, but you do want the regional potentates to compete on equal footing at least as far as you are concerned... besides, any who get too ambitious can be threatened with BOCHICA throttling.

VR outside of arcades or even massively multiplayer first person shooters aren't going to be a thing any time soon, but people find it interesting that they can be on MU*s or even things like Ultima Online with other people from anywhere in the world without issues; online dating is starting to go from very niche to socially acceptable, even.

Your choice to make the internet as decentralized as possible takes some control away from you, but it also makes effectively impossible for Yang to secede -- he'd have to take away the net from all his citizens, all at once, and at the same time keep it operating for factories and banks. You've essentially put yourself in the same position as Francesca, except that as it turns out, on the day to day, people are more attached to their memes than to their faith.


>>3852864
>>3852863
>>3852869

(... I thought y'all just wanted a hug on that scene, honest, hence the sore ribs joke! I'm not good at writing this sort of thing, ask Kat...)

(Chaim thinks that you're celibate; I am not saying the Foreman is; that's for y'all to tell me!)

---

You decide to focus on large satellites rather than microsat swarms; GCASA need the experience in deploying "big dumb boosters" at a hat's drop in case there are more unwanted visitors, and this allows you to build a sat infrastructure that can have a few redundancies and a few things up there that you don't want people to know about.

The launch schedule, once optimized, lets you fill up the sky.

Each large sat will carry two antenna arrays, and has three free slots.

# Tungsten rods (1 use)
# More antennas for better comms
# Low-res space telescope
# High-res space telescope (2 slots)
# Local compute node

On this optimized rotation, you can also send up

# a proper space station again!

# five "roamer" satellites that can be repositioned. Each will have two propellant tanks, and also three free slots.

Finally, you launch

# one

# two

satellites that ID as backups, but actually carry U-H bombs. You've used a lot of nuclear fuel on the Garibaldi, so the third will "only" carry four sets of tungsten rods.

>>3852885
Every Region will have one

# High-res space telescope (2 slots)
# More antennas for better comms
To watch space and the ground.

Have one satellite in each region have Rods or a Giant Space Laser.

# five "roamer" satellites that can be repositioned. Each will have two propellant tanks, and also three free slots.

# Tungsten rods (1 use)

>>3852885

# High res space telescpe
# Local compute node

I don't really want too many wmds in space.

# five "roamer" satellites that can be repositioned. Each will have two propellant tanks, and also three free slots.

Better comms, tungsten rods, and a local compute node for communication error correction. We'd better not need more than 5 weaponized satellites, we're a telecom organization!

Space station's a luxury for later.

# two two nuke sats pls.

Here are some thoughts on Remnant Tactics

#Tactics to keep the Remnant Splintered

Have N.A.P. publish a study on Revelations, Daniel, and Isaiah to explore the different interpretations (Historicist, Preterist, etc.)

Unleash a Bible app for the Nomenclature and the Smart Phone. That the Mark of the Beast could be used to promote "the Word" would really cast some doubts.

Crack down on Remnant persecution (or at least people distributing blasphemy apps and calling for decapitations.)

>>3852899
This, but maybe low res instead of high res and comms in the extra slot?

>>3852903
Support

>>3852863
>>3852861
>>3852856
>>3852853

You have a good working relationship with Francesca, and together you make sure that the other Ecumenical Council faiths get their act together when it comes to having a web presence.

A problem with that is that the Remnant in Petra have literally nothing better to do than flood the web, being as God Almighty is providing for their necessities and defense; it's hard to beat that.

Aki tells you that there are a couple of interesting people in there, Chang Wong and Naomi Tiberias; she suspect that one of them may have been her doppelganger.

You consider creating a false-flag Remnant group, but decide to keep that in reserve for now; instead, you set up an investigative-journalism piece about one Paule Stepola, the man who would free the swarm.

You also tell Tsion that you are willing to release some of his sermons to the public, if he writes them down; that does wonders to his sanity -- he's still a rabid lunatic, but he's an intelligent one, at least -- and you find that he and Chaim, good friends when they had different faiths, now are happier to attack each other than the nonbelievers over trivial and not-so-trivial differences, in the best Evangelical Protestant tradition.

You enlist Dr. Damosa's help in ensuring that Remnant kids -- who would be entering first grade soon at this point -- and young adult have access to information about other faiths and other lifestyles than sitting around in ruins and eating the same delicious food three times a day. Memes help; so does Damosa's cyberliteracy program for kids, intended to let them have email pen-pals as soon as they can read and write. Looks like the man has found a point to his life after all.

On that note, you've so far been unable to procure a manna sample or for that matter enter Petra at all.

>>3852894
>>3852899

You want as many eyes in the sky as possible; the standard comm sat will have a camera -- if one misses anything suspicious, you reckon, another will catch it. Local compute nodes will allow the satellite network to keep functioning even in case of catastrophic loss of downlink.

# Exempt South America as per Santiago's original request (and install something else)

# Don't

>>3852903

Once the last satellite launches, you throw a giant party (VR, LAN, dance, or whatever people like) for the whole organization: you have finally succceded in achieving the best connectivity possible barring a major breakthrough, all across the world. You tell Carpatescu, who says that he didn't expect you to actually manage that on the budget he had planned for you. He's mildly amused by the existence of CLUltists, but says he wishes they'd dissipate, since if they don't he may be stuck in there for longer.

(All areas to 5/5/5!)

You leave the issue of a permanent manned space station to GCASA: it's their job, after all. McLachlan has been wanting to test the new batch of Energia boosters by launching a Mars probe.

Remnant Tactics Pt. 2:

Encourage Chloe to start an educational program to impress positive Christian morals (forgiveness, charity, honesty) through talking and singing fruits and vegetables. This will offer a more positive perspective of Christianity that doesn't condone the fire and blood espoused by the Witnesses, Tsion, or Micah.

>>3852907

# Don't.

Sorry, but that's a lot of nope given that they're for apocalypse prevention.

# Exempt South America as per Santiago's original request (and install something else)

Or we could consider negotiating with Santiago, explain the situation, and promise that once the weirdness finally ends, we'll remove the satellites.

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>>3852901

You task NAP to create an interactive repository for various interpretations of at least the major religious texts, and they eventually do. There's a minor hacker war over who has admin rights on it, which by the look of it will continue long after any of this still matters.

( http://bibviz.com/ keeps going down, too)

(What do the five roamer satellites look like?)

(How many nuke sats?)

>>3852909

Chloe feels that given how expensive fresh fruit and veggies are, it's a little too indulgent -- then again, she fully expects that in the Millennial Kingdom everyone will have as much as they want, so she takes the suggestion to heart and has ICCO open a media studio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mOs9O4cTNw

Micah's response is.... interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtHigdgTYMw

And then there's the one guy who's still living in New Babylon, which to Aki's great sadness has wound itself down -- it's still a tourist attraction, but with a much smaller maintenance budget the cracks are starting to show -- who went and made this thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeZOaXbL5MU

You accidentally started a Remnant CGI arms race! At least it's keeping them busy... To Tsion, of course, all this is frivolity. To the internet at large, it's an excellent source of memes.

>>3852907
# Don't.

>>3852907
# Ask Santiago if shes done doing dirty business in her territory.

Also Compromise that you'd only have ones that point to the sky.

Otherwise shes going to the be only place comets could realistically hit in the future with low to no coverage.

(What do the five roamer satellites look like?)
Rods from Cat Gods

(How many nuke sats?)
As many as we can. Maximum Yield, MIRV types.

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>>3852919

XD

Awesome!

((And then there is the anime bible show with Bishounen Satan.))

>>3852923

You can afford two nuke-sats. Or you can keep the nuclear fuel in reserve; you're still digging quite a bit of it out of the ground, but should you need a lot of it, every bit will help.

>>3852923
>>3852921
>>3852918
>>3852913

You spend more and more of your time in Thule, but your HQ is still in San Felipe.

"Remember when we made that agreement, Foreman? It was the beginning of a solid alliance. Now that there's nobody above us but God, and let's see how long that lasts, tell me: why do you think I asked you that?"

"You were expanding the Espartanos more than Carpatescu would let you. Or building an air force."

"Those are both great ideas! And yes on the first, by the way. But... no, it was a matter of ideology. There should be a place on this earth where people don't have to wear silly hats to thwart the eye in the sky. Being prepared is good, but the panopticon... I believe it fosters paranoia, and paranoia is where so many good strategic minds go to die. If you're worried about what is coming to us, why not just build more telescopes here? We got the Atacama telescope, we can make one in the Sierra Negra in Mexico, or in Patagonia..."

You wish you were there; you can talk in near-miraculous 720p at 25fps from Rio to Thule now, in theory you could even teleconference via VR -- you've tried it, and latency wise it's bearable -- but you'd rather be over there. It's Rio; who wouldn't?

# Sorry, but this is too important for humanity.

# Ground telescopes aren't quite a replacement, but it's close enough.

>>3852924

(He looks like he wants to go nose-spelunking but can't as long as he's on camera XD)

>>3852927

# Ground telescopes aren't quite a replacement, but it's close enough.

(I misread Espartanos as Esperanto, making me think that the Potentate was holding secret language clubs.)

>>3852923

Your butt itches.

Your design for the "roamer" satellites is very simple: they're going to carry propellant, and they're going to carry tungsten rods. In addition to letting you "plink" another cometoid to see what it does, you're hoping that if you ever need to unleash Hell on a target, you'll be able to do so with a nuclear and nonnuclear option.

What if radiation goes back to normal in a few years, after all? The last thing the ecosystem needs after all that it had to survive is more contaminants.

>>3852923
>>3852899

On the other hand, if you'd had an orbital nuke, you could have put Fragment 4 to rest in minutes, instead of months. So, you get two.

>>3852929

The world's main languages at this point are Hindi, Simplified Chinese, and English; Esperanto was something that Carpatescu pushed early on, but let drop in favor of more urgent things.

Asking him about today, he'd teach everybody Toki Pona as a second language.

>>3852927

Your research into high energy sound systems has borne fruit; you can deploy LRAD vehicles (or even semi-portable systems) and, after a lot of simulation time and a fair amount of trial and error, you've replicated the mechanical-resonance Tesla demolition system: attach a series of small vibrators onto a rigid structure, let them synchronize with each other, and step away. In minutes or hours the structure will have torn itself to pieces.

Your butt itches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fScXLVp6ADw Sonic tractor beams can move chemicals with zero contamination, which makes them useful in the medical and biotech fields.

Between this and the latest version of the gap generators -- they can block any miracle from any faith, even Remnant. in roughly the radius of a soccer field, which is why they're called Gap Fields and sports leagues are starting to recommend them for stadiums, although there's a big pushback against them being made mandatory -- you're reasonably sure that you can take any creature or demon that this or any other universe sends at the Earth.

Except for Angels. Angels, are still a significant mystery; you've had people pore through every sacred tome or obscure grimoire from every tradition, but...

>>3852927
# Ground telescopes aren't quite a replacement, but it's close enough.

Don't get mad or upset at us if comets smack into your regions and demons come out of it attacking everyone.

Also Can we rebuild or Chicago HQ, I want 3 HQ's 2 in the america's 1 in greenland, with more to come.

both north and south pole, and the moon.

>>3852927
# Ground telescopes aren't quite a replacement, but it's close enough.

>>3852936
>>3852929

You made a committment, and you're going to stick with it. Corazon Santiago is visibly happy, perhaps on a personal level.

---

Ryan Andrews has kept busy, and is doing well for himself; he sold off the occult store chain to a Norwegian shipping magnate who wants to use it to promote Asatru, and is betting that the next big thing is consumer VR, as soon as cell phone accelerometers become responsive enough. His first product is basically a color version of the VirtualBoy, and literally hurts your eyes -- maybe you're just used to better -- but it doesn't cost a man's yearly salary.

You discover with some sadness that Francine has passed away shortly after the Sixth Trumpet Judgement, although not because of it; she simply died of old age. The Aurora VR setup is now being run by her adopted child, Ari.

---

A lot of trial and error allows for further increasing both the power and the range of Gap Generators; statistical analysis of Remnant reports show that there are four "active" angels, identified as Caleb, Christopher, Nahum, and Anis. The first three seem to follow a predetermined pattern; the latter is more flexible, and shows up to help believers in any number of crises -- as long as they are with in one prayer-circle link of Chloe, Micah, or Tsion, personally. Statistical analysis, combined with the fact that people on Chloe's site (which has since merged with the YTF site; this is the first year in which the world has no teenagers, and there will be eight more), has allowed figuring out what series of events cause an Angel to show up -- you can cause one. Pick a territory, too.

# Robbery

# Kidnapping

# Street fight

# No

Anis seems to be the only one of these who is flexible; the others follow a predetermined patterns. Comparison to Pacman ghosts happen almost immediately. Christopher admonishes people to fear God and give glory to Him, Nahum warns that Babylon would fall, and Caleb warned that any who worship the beast and take his mark would forever forsake salvation.

---

Dr. Diamond wants to enter series production of her implant; it makes no sense to have spent so much in R&D with only three functioning units in the world.

# No

# Augment your people
* sec
* black ops
* both

# Put it up for sale

# Augment some fighters, and suggest to Vega a true no-holds-barred MMA tournment that allows augmented fighters, to see what the competition has been up to.

>>3852935
Well, get our butt checked out.

Also put our sperm in a sperm bank, and put our dna in some cold storage.

Can we make special VTOL Jets and Tactical/Strategic Transport and airlifts?

Also make Armoured Fighting Vehicles for taking out aerial supernatural beings like with a 20MM rotary autocannon back up by 2 40mm bofor guns and some missiles slapped on for good measure.

And start researching Mechs and Gundams, and special mobility combat suits to fight in all environments like poison gas and stuff.

# Kidnapping - United Pacific States


Catch and release if angels don't show up.

#Augment your people (Both)
# Suggest to Vega a true no-holds barred MMA tournament

Can we combine the two? I think it would make a good training exercise.

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>>3852955

Since you can afford it, you fish out of the archive some designs for a hybrid legged-wheeled platform, which may be useful for mountainous or hilly terrain despite the additional mechanical complexity. If it comes to a fight in or near Petra, you want to be able to go up and down the steep cliffs.

Something like that would be good for

# direct fire support, something like a tankette.

# indirect fire support, mountain artillery that doesn't have to fit on a mule.

# engineering support, to help other vehicles up and down.

You have a nurse prescribe you a topical cream; you've survived worse, so it's not a big worry. However, she notes that she's had to order more of the stuff lately, and BOCHICA is not quite keeping up with demand when sending work orders. Is there some sort of rash epidemic?

... Is it time for the First Bowl Judgement already?

>>3852953
Where are we in the timeline now?

>promote Asatru
Awe comon now.

# Street fight

>she simply died of old age
Wait our VR lady right? Not the Witch right?

# Augment your people
* both

# Put it up for sale

>>3852955
Oh god no, not the fucking spider tanks again.

# engineering support, to help other vehicles up and down.

SPIDER TANKS!!!

>>3852967
I want giant fighting robots, since Chole said we'd be stomping angels and demons in a mech.

But since qm seems to be making a few legs to many, nuke the program from orbit and suicide all the engineers and developers.

Welp, time to have our factories and Science teams research and stay near Gap Generators.

Also send up satellites to check out space around us, so as to detect the movement of atoms and energy or whatever that may be god doing some bullshit.

>>3852961
>>3852955
>>3852969
Please, no spider tanks
Do you people not remember what happened last time?

Man I don't even know what we are doing anymore, are we going to research anymore? Are we just gonna let these events happen and pass through it? Can we build a space ship to leave earth and set up a device to collapse space in the local area?

>>3852972

Hear me out.

Spider Tanks were a terrible idea in the last QST because the earth was flat and no need to worry about geography.

If we're going to be fighting TJ at Megido, the area is relatively mountainous. Also I think flooding could be a concern.

Ergo, it'll be useful to have these little buggers on hand to wade through the slush and climb the hills... but as support.

>>3852977
Aircraft and drones would be better.

Either get big Gundams or don't bother.

>>3852977
>And every island fled away, and no mountains were to be found.
The earth is still planned to get flattened by the 7th bowl, spider tanks would be a complete waste of resources again

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>>3852960

Yes, you can combine the two.

>>3852966

Yes, Francine was the lady who was running your first VR instalation.

Francesca, strega and coordinatrix of the Ecumenical Council, will die of old age sometime next century, you reckon, at this rate.

>>3852967

( Hey, >>3852955 asked, and to be fair since this world has mountains and hills, they make marginally more sense)

>>3852971

(As someone who has worked on fighting robots professionally : the optimal number of legs as far as I am concerned is zero, followed by six. Although, again, situational mobility. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzaXMzYFtSM )


>>3852966

With things quiet on the political front -- you're occasionally asked to arbitrate things -- you let yourself focus on your work, and Carla on hers.

Humanity these days is mostly concentrated in cities, thanks to vertical farms and the hope that soon meat will be vat grown; for now, people make do with community chicken coops and bunny farms in what used to be the suburbs.

Between cities and towns, the environment -- aided by the sacrifice of an entire Pacific island to bootstrap the depleted soil -- is being allowed to slowly restore itself.

You've been busy with so many little and not so little projects... surely it hasn't been a whole year since you got punched in the gut by a demon, could it have?

Yes, it has; summer, proper summer, came again to the Southern Hemisphere, and even Thule's winter was a comparatively balmy -40C.

>>3852975

(We're fast forwarding to the final fight, since the prophecy has been broken)

Your butt itches. Nearly everyone's butt -- or back, or thighs, or cheeks for those especially unfortunate -- itches.

It looks like acne, which is probably good news for cosmetics manufacturers since teenagers stopped being a thing this year and won't be a thing again until the far-off year of 2008.

>>3852984
>>3852975

(Are there any other big projects that you wish to continue?)

garibaldi: nuke, drones
thule: factory/eisenstadt
internet: decentralized, free
veggies: vertical farming, autarky
meat: vatgrown, autarky
satellites: large, keep, telescopes
ecology preserves: regional, icco
remnant schism: 60%

Doesn't that happen at the end of the battle though?

Anyways, I'm proposing using them for engineering support not combat which could be useful for installing infrastructure before Armageddon.

>>3852984
On the other hand, we don't even really have to plan for turns anymore.....

>>3852953

# Street fight, I want DEW drones on standby

# Both

# Augment some fighters. We teched Vega up for this, let's fucking do it.

>>3852961
# engineering support, to help other vehicles up and down.

>>3852977
Hey nerds, can we NOT start teching up military force for this? We want to win through trickery, not trying to follow the prophecy.

>>3852953
# Kidnapping
Kidnapping would the be the easiest to prepare an arena with traps and tests for devices of

# Augment your people
# Augment some fighters

>>3852986
Tell Carpatasu we also have tison imprisioned and if hes interested in verbally duking it out in cyber space.

>>3852986

Theology: I'd at least like to get N.A.P. speculating on what could be driving these events. Maybe coordinate interviews with Carpatescu for more information since he seems to be less of a prick these days.

>>3852986
I think a plan would be prodice some 100 or 1000 gab generators put them in front of the petra wall and start em all up. See if that makes a hole for us to get inside.

>>3852986
No spider tanks please

Oh no not sores and rashes
Why did it have to be the BUTT?
Is it so we can't sit down and play computers all day long anymore?

>>3852986
>big projects
All of them?

Can we release the antichrist now?

Should we build a really translucent big sun catcher satellite thing to refect the incoming schorching heat?

Paint things lighter colors to reflect more heat, alot of solar panels.

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>>3853010

That could work. Maybe invest in solar power?

>>3852986

>>3853010
>One proposed sunshade would be composed of 16 trillion small disks at the Sun-Earth L1 Lagrangian point, 1.5 million kilometers above Earth. Each disk is proposed to have a 0.6-meter diameter and a thickness of about 5 micrometers. The mass of each disk would be about a gram, adding up to a total of almost 20 million tonnes.[3] Such a group of small sunshades that blocks 2% of the sunlight, deflecting it off into space

>In 2004, physicist and science fiction author Gregory Benford calculated that a concave rotating Fresnel lens 1000 kilometres across, yet only a few millimeters thick, floating in space at the L1 point, would reduce the solar energy reaching the Earth by approximately 0.5% to 1%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_sunshade

Do we really have the capacity to launch 16 trillion small discs or 1 disc 1000 km wide into space? Would that even be enough? These numbers are enough to counteract CO2 global warming, but not sun increased in power so earth burns to death global warming...

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>>3852997

You'd have to let them know that you have Carpatescu, though.

# Go for it.

# No.

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>>3852995
>>3852994

Gideon Vega thinks that it's an excellent idea! This is going to keep Dr. Diamond busy for a while, of course, but she's been wanting to get this done for a good while now.

His people's implants are a bit less nuanced and, you reckon, probably a bit more prone to infection. You pick a date that suits both of you and doesn't get in the way of other events.

Gideon has been busy; after consolidating his power in the Southeast Pacific, he's done his best to provide people hope through transcending the human condition. Aki has admitted to you that if she wasn't working with you, she'd probably try to work for him.

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>>3852996

"Foreman, you're an interesting conversationalist -- certainly more so than Tsion -- but yes, I would love to talk to a different human being. You're just not my type, you know."

Linking the two VR rigs takes a bit of time, but it's absolutely feasible; the black site isn't being used for much else these days.

>>3853004

You can release Carpatescu at any time (but people have to vote for that).

>>3853010

That's a solid concern. Building an orbital mirror would require a significant effort. Despite the recent volcanic winter, there are people worried about global warming in the medium term, once population has risen again.

The idea for an orbital mirror is formalized by Lowell Wood, a senior staff scientist with GCASA, who calculated that deflecting 1% of sunlight would restore climatic stability, and that that would require either a single mirror 1600,000 square kilometers in area or several smaller ones of equivalent area. Wood had been researching the idea for more than ten years but considered it so infeasible that it should only be a back-up plan for solving any future global warming problems.

You're more worried about the Fourth Bowl Judgement, which is expected to last four months as per the latest NAP figures -- and royally screw the Southern Hemisphere, just to make it fair with the volcanic winter, since it'll happen right at the start of harvesting season for most common crops.

Fortunately, vertical farms are relatively easy to make reflective.

To sell the idea, you

# refer to the Remnant prophecies directly.

# point out the importance of energy conservation.

# (write in)

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>>3852995
>>3852960

The most accessible Remnant community that is in the Pacific States, away from being able to call for help (a tall order in this connected word), and easy to control the environment in is in the Australian interior. You identify one Bruce Tannock as an ideal target for his amount of posting on Chaim's website, relative isolation in realspace, and relatively good physical health (he's obese, but young, so he's likely to survive any mild trauma).


A work team and a sec team should do it, plus

# Moira.

# yourself.

# Chandra.


>>3853019

(OK that's cool :D )

>>3853024

# NO

We are not informing anyone of, nor releasing, the antichrist until after the final judgement, at which point I really hope we execute him for mind control shit.

# refer to the Remnant prophecies directly.

Fuck it, people know, at this point we can't be the only group on Armageddon prevention.

# Chandra.

Outback operation? This is his show.

>>3853024
>>3853010
>>3853019
Also, another problem blocking out the sun is that the 4th bowl will END. The 5th bowl covers the world with darkness, if the sun is blocked out, the darkness would be even worse.

>>3853024

We'd have to work out some sort of SCP clearance system. We're not going to let everybody know we have the Antichrist in a box.

Otherwise
#No

# point out the importance of energy conservation.
# point out this would be an excellent opportunity to let her project see fruition. CATS helped the late Dr. Robertson realize many of his dreams after all.


#Moira

>>3853024
#No
# point out the importance of energy conservation.

>>3853031

The fifth bowl actually covers the 'Throne of the Beast' in darkness. At least in the LBverse


Considering we're being hyped as the Antichrist, my interpretation is the network going down.

>>3853036
If that happens and we build an army we put the prophecy back on the rails, let's avoid antichrist tropes k?

>>3853024
# point out the importance of energy conservation.

Show how these system comes with prefabricated and well researched designs that work with the AI reducing man hours and saves energy, water, and effort. Unless we are talking about the mirror....

Wouldn't we need less material and area coverage if we moved the mirror closer to the sun? We can deploy a metal like foil that is extended like a umbrella and being 1km in size, and can build a few space stations to help with maintenance and stuff.

# Chandra.
Less well know, but also quite scary.

Got idea for that, mass of lights everywhere lighting things up, and night vision goggles.

glow in the dark moss and paint or something.

>>3853036
Need to link everything with fiber optic or something.

>>3853036
>>3853044
That makes sense, we should reinforce the network some more too
I still don't like space sunshades though, it will need a lot of work, and we aren't sure how much sunshade we'll need to set up beforehand to counteract the 4th bowl

>>3853043

Totally agree!

Actually that brings to mind the Sixth Trumpet. The river dries, but there is also the part of demons convincing armies to mass at Armageddon. We've got to be on the lookout for that.

>>3853048

We could try increasing cloud cover or encouraging a shift to subterranean shelters?

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>>3853033
>>3853032
>>3853030

You connect the VR prisons for Nicolae Carpatescu and Tsion Ben-Judah, but only to each other -- and add in a bit of glitching, just so that they'll think that they are not in the same place if they know anything about networking; their best guess is that one of them is in Effincold and the other is in Thule.

It takes exactly three hours for Carpatescu to ask -- almost beg -- to be disconnected. They go from being unable to know if the other is an impostor, to agreeing at least temporarily that neither of them is, to five minutes of civil conversation including possible plans to escape, to Tsion ranting at Carpatescu for everything he did and quite a few things he didn't.

>>3853044
>>3853033
>>3853032

Your pitch here is simple: only Remnant feel safe around nuclear power (this is less and less true as civilians rotate in and out of your installations, but by and large, it's still true for a large majority of the population), the only good thing about the effective halving of the human population since 1996 is that pollution went down, let's ease off on burning coal once the dust cloud is all gone.

People don't buy it much; one problem is that there's been less of a reason to go into the contryside lately. The children of the tribulation are more likely to know the names of fantasy creatures than real animals.

While an appeal to the people doesn't get too far, an appeal to the authorities does better: the best time to build better-insulated houses and offices is now, since the population is as low as it'll get (hopefully).

At least city centers will look a little brighter, with shiny buildings and vertical farms...

>>3853058

You do a little bit of math to that. A nuclear or kinetic strike on Yellowstone would do the trick -- the caldera is quiet for now, but the new crust is fragile. Of course, the problem with that sort of thing is that you can't exactly feather the throttle on it; either you don't do it, or you do it and take all the good and bad.

---

NAP has a few proposals for how to deal with the Seventh Judgement, the real problem at the end of all of this.

# Review proposals.

# Follow the tournament.

# Direct a kidnapping.

The pattern of butt-itching is familiar: guess who isn't affected. On the other hand, with nearly everyone having skin sensitivity issues, DEWs will be a lot more effective in microwave mode, while remaining nonlethal.

# Review proposals

Does the rash affect the Orthodox Jews?

>>3853062

# Review proposals

>>3853071

Also what about children under 12?

>>3852977
Spider tanks might be good for rough terrain, yes.

Know what's better? Air mobility. And pack mules.

>>3852998
Crazy idea:

Gap Field Generator plus a compact generator(I'm thinking a business jet APU and a tank of avgas; it only has to hold at full power for an hour or two) plus cushioning; and we air drop it with a drogue parachute into Petra.

With that we can preplace GFGs ahead of an advance, or to disrupt NC shenanigans in general without having to risk personnel or vehicles.

>>3853062
# Review proposals

>>3853024
Darn carpatsu I really thought we a thing going. That we could hook up after this.

>>3853099
Yeah its a good plan i think. We can test it out without worry. Its not.like they are going to leave petra anytime soon.

>>3853109
I'm a little worried about revealing the capability to the loyalist Remnant ahead of time, though. At least insofar as it might jolt them(and God) into preemptive action to prevent its use.

In any case, we can test it elsewhere. There's no shortage of flat, open, unoccupied spaces where we can trial prototypes without interruption.

I'd like some clarification.

What happens to non-Remnant as they approach Petra? Do they supernaturally drop dead, even if they don't mean harm?

I'm a bit confused.

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>>3853079
>>3853071

That takes surprisingly long to find out -- half an hour, maybe. The rash does in fact affect Orthodox Jews, and for that matter pregnant women.

It does not affect children, or Remnant.

Thanks to modern analgesics, it's little more than an annoyance, but the very fact that it exists is enough to create a moment of global panic: what else will follow?

During the last prophecied disaster. all the technology and preparation could do nothing. On the other hand, that was the exception, and as far as this particular issue goes, well, cortisol cream will sell well.

>>3853099

That's actually fairly easy to try! The basic gap generator design is public; you -want- people to make the things. They've been selling really well to casinos and sports arenas, ostensibly for their jamming capabilities; what people have had a hard time start admitting in writing is that when an augur of Mercury or a priest of Loki breaks the roulette table three days in a row, it's cheaper to buy a gap generator and install it on the ceiling than to break the guy's leg and have to deal with the subsequent misfortune.

>>3853106

Who knows?

>>3853127

The Peacekeepers guarding the place were eaten up by the ground -- an instant sinkhole. A few people have approached since (Orthodox Jews seem to be able to go in and out without a problem). However, you've lost a handful of people trying to infiltrate, and so has everyone else. They're warmly greeted in the courtyard, are allowed into the tunnels, lose cell phone signal... and that's the last you see of them.

.... We have priests of Trickster deities with demonstrable fate manipulation?!

This merits study!

>Petra

Spooky. So either they're being converted on the spot, or they're being killed in the tunnels.

>>3853101
>>3853079
>>3853071

NAP meetings tend to be a bit raucous, but being around Fr. Schorpe taught you that it's actually not that odd about theological societies. Granted, most theological societies until a few years ago didn't have a metaphysics lab or a combat training branch.

"... Mr. Centime, you have the floor."

"Thank you. I think what we are looking at is that Yahweh's powers are based on sound. If we were to mute Iesu, preemptively, he would be unable to do any damage. At which point, we could likely use known containment technologies. Of course, we would have to test this with an Angel first, at a minimum."

This proposal involves enormous plasma speakers, software that doesn't yet exist, and an approximate knowledge of where Jesus will make landfall on the Last Day.

"Next, Mrs. Ashtear?"

"We are facing an enemy unknown, but an unknown unknown -- we don't know what we don't know. In previous situations, we were able to, albeit not always, figure out a clue from the Ben-Judah documents. In this situation, they assert that our target is omnipotent and omniscient. Leaving philosophical discussions about the possibility of both charactristics existing in the same being aside: it does mean that the target must have appeared so to a First Century audience. We have a sequence of actions, but how can we best interrupt them? We don't know. Which is why my proposal is to apply the only thing we know works with everything: point blank annihilation. A series of uranium hydride devices, placed in a particular pattern and detonated in sequence, will not only destroy the target but also prevent the Mount of Olives to be split in half, because it would no longer exist. We have all the R&D for this; the difficulties are in the engineering and, given that this would have to happen in Israel, the politics."

"Thank you. Dr. Vahlen, if you could."

"I believe that the techniques pioneered during the Two Witnesses incidents and further refined by our own Foreman, and my current employer, Gideon Vega, will win the day. Our gap generators are sufficient to blunt the effect of any narrative causality sufficiently that a small team should be able to airdrop in and take out the target at close range. Afterwards, of course, a thorough series of biopsies will assist in keeping the so-called messiah subdued."

The other presentations aren't ready technologically, or require too much engineering efforts, or are based on philosophical nuances that the a conqueror God may simply decide to ignore.

# Other ideas very welcome though! Bring them in and I'll see if they are at least feasible in-setting.

>>3853166
What if we nuke Petra into oblivion? Or drop rod on it?

>>3853164

It does! And some preliminary study has been conducted.... largely by casinos and lotto operators, whether legitimate or not. It's good complement to the Angel capture project; the question is, of course, who would you do it with?

# A reputable casino in Montecarlo.

# A disreputable casino in Phuket.

# A numbers racket with old-school mob ties in New Jersey.

# An actual Temple of Mercury, recently restored, in Naples.

>>3853175

A rod drop would be easier to explain politically than breaking out the nukes, especially nukes that actually (sort of) work.

The main issue is that once you escalate to that level, you're effectively at war with the Remnant; you could possibly do a rod drop with plausible deniability.

Another possibility is to drop incendiaries, and disguise them as a plane crash, the plane being unmanned, of course. It just so happen that the plane was carrying a LOT of fuel.

>>3853145
>That's actually fairly easy to try! The basic gap generator design is public; you -want- people to make the things. They've been selling really well to casinos and sports arenas, ostensibly for their jamming capabilities; what people have had a hard time start admitting in writing is that when an augur of Mercury or a priest of Loki breaks the roulette table three days in a row, it's cheaper to buy a gap generator and install it on the ceiling than to break the guy's leg and have to deal with the subsequent misfortune.

Hmm...

>>3853164
>Spooky. So either they're being converted on the spot, or they're being killed in the tunnels.

They could also have just been isolated and converted the usual way.

Have we tried moving a GMG into the Petra NC zone? Say, on a RC jeep?

>>3853166
...Could we simply flood Petra with airdropped GMGs, days or months before the final judgement? Break prophecy again?

>>3853175
With NC active? Petra emerges unscathed, and we get our asses handed to us.

>>3853184

# An actual Temple of Mercury, recently restored, in Naples.

Conveniently, we can also find nearby racketeers and mobsters just by looking over our shoulders, too!

>>3853189

Drone flybys of Petra have revealed little of interest, other than some radio noise within the exclusion zone (which is why the point to point link has to be set up just so, in order to work correctly). Carrying in a gap generator into the exclusion zone by drone tank resulted in the gap generators not doing a whole lot except draining the drone tank's batteries considerably faster than normal.

(Food tiem)

>>3853145
>Carrying in a gap generator into the exclusion zone by drone tank resulted in the gap generators not doing a whole lot except draining the drone tank's batteries considerably faster than normal.
Interesting...

Is the gap generator drawing more? Or is energy just disappearing?

Have we tried a Peacekeeper with intent to harm walking alongside the drone tank?

>The Peacekeepers guarding the place were eaten up by the ground -- an instant sinkhole. A few people have approached since (Orthodox Jews seem to be able to go in and out without a problem). However, you've lost a handful of people trying to infiltrate, and so has everyone else. They're warmly greeted in the courtyard, are allowed into the tunnels, lose cell phone signal... and that's the last you see of them.

Are the entrances visible from the air?

Can we listen in with 3-c geophones? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geophone (does interferometry work with microphones?)

# An actual Temple of Mercury, recently restored, in Naples.

>End Game

This is a reckless idea but what if we introduced something into the Narrative that can't be 'Rule Lawyered away by Zod?

Case-in-Point

Jesus shows up to fight the Anti-Christ only to find himself facing Jormungandr and the Fenris Wolf from Norse Mythology or the Iron Horse of Erlik Khan from Mongolian Eschatology? Or things that are interpreted as such?

>>3853220
Oh, one more thing. How much is power draw increasing with distance to Petra?

Is it a flat draw within the NC zone? Is it increasing linearly, exponentially, logarithmically?

Does the presence of a Peacekeeper, or something else likely to provoke an NC response, affect this at all?

>>3853184
So its drawing power from around it to make the sheild then. Can we block this transfer or jsut shut down the grid in a 1000 mile radius and see what it does.

>>3853225
>>3853237

And another, nother thing: Have we tried a drone tank with no gap generator? To test anon's hypothesis?

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>>3853243
>>3853237
>>3853225
>>3853220

> anons doing delicious science

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsDy7QJ5uh8

>>3853220
>>3853243

The gap generator is drawing more power; turning it off returns battery consumption levels to normal.

>>3853225

Assuming that the center point is Petra's iconic entrance (which, incidentally, means that most of the complex is probably off to one side), the power draw increases logarithmically.

Asking various practictioners of other faiths to put wards on a drone tank, sans gap generator, resulted in the wards being smudged, or washed off, or damaged, at the first possible opportunity (by the drone tank getting its paint scratched against a pebble for example).

>>3853224

That's interesting!

>>3853220

The entrances are all clustered together and very much visible from the air. Since there are no ventilation shafts, one group of entrances sucks in air and the other spits it out; your guess is that it's either some supernatural breathing rock effect or, more mundanely, they have a bank of ducted fans down there and the layout of the underground city is more or less linear.

>>3853224
>>3853202

Francesca d'Angelo is not only happy to introduce you to the Flamen Primus of the temple, she'll also attend the ceremony, if her rites are found to be compatible by Mr. Cocuccio (said priest of Mercury, anagraphic name Gennaro Cocuccio).

---


What will you focus on first?

(Also, write-ins like >>3853224 welcome, and green anon definitely has the right idea

>>3853291
Hmmm...you know...since THEY used nerve gas on US first...anywhere we can get our hands on some?

As for dealing with the Mount of Olives, I'm definitely in favour of either sonics or nuclear annihilation.

>>3853291
>Asking various practictioners of other faiths to put wards on a drone tank, sans gap generator, resulted in the wards being smudged, or washed off, or damaged, at the first possible opportunity (by the drone tank getting its paint scratched against a pebble for example).

Does this happen on a tank with an active gap generator?

>The entrances are all clustered together and very much visible from the air. Since there are no ventilation shafts, one group of entrances sucks in air and the other spits it out; your guess is that it's either some supernatural breathing rock effect or, more mundanely, they have a bank of ducted fans down there and the layout of the underground city is more or less linear.

Crazy idea number 2: An infiltrator plants a wireless repeater at the entrance pulling air, and then releases a box full of neutral-bouyancy balloons with sensors and repeaters. The balloons form a simple adhoc wireless network that passes sensor data up back to the repeater, which sends it along to the point-to-point link.

For Pennywise Points, make the balloons all blood-red.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/yuval-noah-harari-is-worried-about-our-souls (Heh.)

>>3853316
>>3853220

Good ideas both, but there's maybe 200K people in there by now; what's likely to happen is that the balloon will be given to a kid and the transmitter reverse-engineered.

Geophones and in fact all manner of sensors have been deployed on the perimeter; they mostly get chatter, machinery running, and that sort of thing.

You do know that Remnant living in Petra make a point of praying together at the morning and evening meal (manna and spring water) and that within the exclusion zone people can understand each other without needing translation. On top of that, within the zone Micah can be heard anywhere without amplification; this effect doesn't extend to the sensors, which caused some confusion at first when technicians picked up a bunch of people saying "Amen!" or "Halleluia!" without any apparent context.

>>3853312

Whether nerve gas would work on King Jesus is a good question. Unfortunately the closest thing to make inferences with is an Angel, and that still would not give you anywhere like a complete picture.

>>3853312

You can make some, although you can't use the public factory system, obviously.

People have learned what happened to the chemical weapons stockpile, and are fairly happy about it having gone the way of the nuclear weapons stockpile; there's been enough death for ten lifetimes.

We'll the old fashion meetings with Nicolae aren't going to happen any more and theses question are a bit dated but.

Ask him why he stockpiles the Chemical weapons, it ended up helping the Narrative.

Why did he snub the UN guy for the African position. If it didn't do that, it may have not set off the spiral of events that made us remove him from power.

I wanted to ask William or Ray this, but I forgot, or felt like the time was inappropriate. What happened at the start with the shooting of Nicolae's mentor and the events around it.

>>3853365

Carpatescu expresses his condolences about Tsion. "If you win, do him a kindness, and do not let him out. A world with no rails to follow would be worse than Hell for him."

>Ask him why he stockpiles the Chemical weapons, it ended up helping the Narrative.

"We were getting rid of that stuff. Very slowly, admittedly, but what was the alternative - shoot it all into space? Couldn't afford it, too heavy. Sink it in the ocean? And have it resurface uncontrolled at the first seaquake. I figured, let us built one very good safe, and put it all in there, and get good men to guard it, so I would only have to guard one door for it."


> Why did he snub the UN guy for the African position. If it didn't do that, it may have not set off the spiral of events that made us remove him from power.

"For lack of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. I was a little drunk on power when it comes to Mwangati Ngumo, I will admit. I could humiliate the UN Secretary General, all of a sudden.... and so naturally I did. But I do not regret picking Rebohoth. The man was odious, but so was Josip Broz Tito; his odiousness unified a continent for me, even if it just so everyone would hate him equally. In sincerity, if you had not killed him, I would have."

>>3853365

William Cameron goes back and forth in and out of Petra, quite often, being as he's Chloe's husband and yet a personal friend of Chaim Rosenzweig; he often has to act as a go-between. Rayford is, as far as you know, still flying for ICCO.


(OOC note: I would like to compliment the green anon on the last thread for his monthly planning... and note that he has essentially worked himself out of a job, since the world now works as well as it's going to for this scenario! I was expecting the place to look like Mad Max by now, instead it just looks somewhat dreary... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-MAqVsOLFI )

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The next thing to do at this point is

# Restore hope.

# Choose an end-game strategy.

# Follow the tournament.

# Direct a kidnapping.

>>3853422
# Choose an end-game strategy.

>>3853422
# Follow the tournament.

So our weapons in space are super secure right?

And we even put thinks like interception with giant laser cannons powered by a nuclear power plant for a single laser cannon type of deal for things falling on us?

>>3853438

"... Mr. Centime, you have the floor."

Mr. Centime has determined that Yahweh's powers are based on sound and if we were to mute Jesus preemptively, he would be unable to do any damage. At which point, we could likely use known containment technologies. This proposal involves enormous plasma speakers, software that doesn't yet exist, and an approximate knowledge of where Jesus will make landfall on the Last Day.
+ Most R&D completed
+ Relatively cheap to implement
- Needs accurate landfall location
- Must be tested on an Angel first; may not work

Mrs. Ashtear intends to apply point blank annihilation. A series of uranium hydride devices, placed in a particular pattern and detonated in sequence, should not only destroy the target but also prevent the Mount of Olives to be split in half, because it would no longer exist.
++ All R&D completed
- Extremely expensive to implement
- Political issues

Dr. Vahlen believes that the techniques pioneered during the Two Witnesses incident will win the day. Concentrating gap generators on the site of Jesus' landing will allow a small team to aidrop in and take out the target and His escorts at close range. Afterwards, a thorough series of biopsies will assist in keeping the target subdued.
+ Most R&D complete
+ Relatively cheap to implement
- Needs very accurate landfall location
- Should be tested on an Angel first; may not work

Another suggestion involves causing events from incompatible mythologies to happen: what if Jesus shows up to fight the Anti-Christ only to find himself facing Jormungandr and the Fenris Wolf from Norse Mythology or the Iron Horse of Erlik Khan from Mongolian Eschatology? Or things that are interpreted as such?

Patrick Zevo sent a proposal in: he believes that while his stepfather was wrong in wanting to train remote-control child soldiers, there may here be a use for his madness. At the Glorious Appearing, the oldest children will be 7 years old; among millions of kids, it must be possible to find those precocious enough to operate war vehicles. The answer to "How many first graders can Jesus beat up" is probably "zero".


The other presentations aren't ready technologically, or require too much engineering efforts, or are based on philosophical nuances that the a conqueror God may simply decide to ignore.

(Write-ins welcome!)

>>3853449

The idea with putting weapons in space is to raise the bar for people messing with them.

Ablative interception using laser requires a lot of advance warning, which your telescope network is now providing, and laser technology you currently do not have.

Vahlens method is relatively cheap yes?

Any way we could use her method, but also set up the point blank annihilation strategy as a back up?

>>3853455

Zevo can get his ass back on the bench.

Incompatible mythologies is an idea, but we have absolutely no research into that, and we REALLY do not want to swap one armageddon for another!

I support Mr Centime's solution as our primary plan of action. We should be able to get angel testing done in the near future.

Should angel testing fail, fall back to Ms Ashtear's plan.

>>3853455
Dr. Vahlen
Mr. Centime

Do both?

Both are fairly cheap.

>>3853479
We can do all 3 then!

First two fail, we hit the switch and blow it all up.

What if we start blasting sound int Petra?

Also have we drawn out lines on the rage and maximum or minimum range for the "Petra effect"?

How come we could not test the Schlieren effect to see the horsemen?

>>3853484
There is a cost to splitting our efforts that much, yknow.

Fact is, while this technique might work, we have no idea how much of our elite teams are running on NC themselves, at this point, especially if we turn to Vega for guys - which frankly is our only option to get manpower for this.

>>3853497
Victory?
The cost OF Victory.
That is a cost worth paying for!

At the very least Incompatible Plot elements can create a cover while we execute one of the other plans.

While Jesus is distracted by spouting sermons at Odin or Kali or the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man, we can cage/subdue/disintegrate him

On a tangental note:

Maybe we can get some insight into Narrative Control by looking at the concept of Tulpas from Tibetan Buddhism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa

>>3853455
>why not all 4 with point blank annihilation being the last chance.

>>3853488

You couldn't test the Schlieren effect because that sort of thing takes longer than 1 or 2 days to set up from scratch.

The exclusion zone around Petra is very well mapped; there might as well be a circle painted on the ground (there isn't, but the perimeter is easy to tell by looking at where the sensors are, and it's geofenced).

>>3853535
>>3853484

As always in this quest, you can choose to do multiple single-choice options, but at an efficiency penalty.

>>3853500

The real issue is not Armageddon, but the Sheep and Goats Judgement, scheduled to happen the following day: in it, roughly 80% of the human race will die and go to Hell. That makes roughly 2200 million people. The survivors will lose a significant portion of their cultural wealth.

>>3853758

Yeah. We need one absolutely surefire turbojesus remover.

We know sonic containment is likely to work, need to test it.

We also know vaporizing everything will work, and we've already done all the research for it.

Israel was made by the displaced, if we gotta displace em again to save the ENTIRETY OF HUMANITY well that's Israel's problem. It's not like with a third of the world's population dead there isn't room, and I'm pretty sure the world won't mind.

>>3853503

One thing that might fit with using Vahlen's plan is to create real-life superheroes -- take a mercenary team and make them celebrities by giving them hidden advantages and great PR -- and see if their performance actually improves.

People do need hope.

>>3853526

From what you can tell, it seems to be a case of shared belief. Have thirty kids do a mousetrap race car workshop, convince them beforehand that red ones go faster, and when they build their cars, the ones that get painted red will have a slight speed and acceleration advantage.

Remnant have the advantage of being a relatively large group with mostly coherent beliefs, even with the three main groups bickering over the details; the EC promotes pluralism, but actually agree over very few things.

(Y'all tell me! I would recommend picking a main plan and a backup)

>>3853779

We can always give them a new homeland in someplace that's nicer and not built atop a lot of dead bodies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

I like the Sonic Plan with the Annihilation Plan as a backup. I would like to toy with the idea of causing Narrative Cognitive Dissonance by introducing something to the Narrative at Armageddon or the S&G Judgment.

>>3853799
>>3853779

Looks like Plan A is sonic containment, and Plan B is nuclear bombs. Confirm?

>>3853488

Taking vehicle-mounted LRADs to Petra is definitely workable. What will they say?

>>3853503

That might work, according to your theologians, and at least it might be a useful distraction... but what would it be? Something that a 1st century Palestine resident might recognize? Something that has a cultural impact today?

>>3853823
That's got my vote.

Also my plan for the gas wasn't Jesus it was figuring out if you can gas Petra.

>>3853823
Something so unfathomably alien it will make Jesus' head spin.

>>3853422
>I would like to compliment the green anon on the last thread for his monthly planning
And I would like to thank everyone for supporting my plans and for, in my absence, managing to "win" so much of the events.

>and note that he has essentially worked himself out of a job, since the world now works as well as it's going to for this scenario
No problem OP, I've always wanted to retire in style: I can think of no better way than making a future where a man like me is unneeded.

> I was expecting the place to look like Mad Max by now, instead it just looks somewhat dreary
We've honestly done a good job: who knows a decade from the start of this hell and humanity might actually even be recovering; we could send out hundreds of teams to find the blood, bones and bodies of extinct species and begin the struggle to recreate the old world's glory one species at a time.

>>3853823
>That might work, according to your theologians, and at least it might be a useful distraction... but what would it be? Something that a 1st century Palestine resident might recognize? Something that has a cultural impact today?
Why not us? We've recovered from the thing that killed 1/3 of humanity; we fought and killed one of the demons who did it; we are the head of cats, a cyborg and a man who rejected world-power; we are the closest thing mankind has had to saviour against god. They might not pray to us but they should pray for us and all we do.

>>3853891
Actually disregard that idea, just remembered being called a god is an anti-christ thing...

>>3853903
A hero, chosen one perhaps?

>>3853912
Nuke the site from orbit AND from below?

>>3853914
Im betting the nukes will be jesused away but not the tungston rods

>>3853903

Maybe giant holographic C'thulhu? Or some anime character?

>>3853918
Hit him with those too!

>>3853903

Maybe we can do a giant holographic Pokemon or anime character? Defeat Jesus with the power of Japanimation~!

>>3853823
Confirm

>>3853912
>A hero, chosen one perhaps?
Just a martyr, a statue to raise?

More seriously, perhaps. I mean the sonic containment backed by nuclear is probably the best plan but if we can distract them for a period by use of a sacrificial lamb while we get shit sorted? We should.

>>3853918
It is a possibility. On the other hand, we can store them under Gap generator effect and hope that works.


Also, can I just point out that we've been under for 6 months: by this point I honestly would've expected Thule to have been completed in all three regards and maybe even a second city started. Admittedly we've done orbital shit and network stuff instead so I suppose it's unimportant by comparison.

On the other hand, it turns out Thule is a city of a million if we went the Colony route: which as I pointed out previously we could build about 24 per year meaning 96 million people could be living under CATS control in 3 years time assuming we've got all other shit sorted. Given the Factory network has been completely expanded? Assuming that means we've got the original 22 regions worth (since the region numbers have changed I think) and the same number of work teams we could actually have built 11 levels per month meaning 132 levels per year before accounting for drones.

That is to say we could currently, assuming we still had only 24 work teams and used no drones / heroes, build self-sufficient accommodations for 26.4 million people per year that also have some industrial capacity. I'm tempted to go do some simple calculations to create an idea of just how insane this would get with two added assumptions: 1, we get a work team per half-a-million people living under us; 2, we get a Bn from each million people (assuming 80% are working adults, they'd be paying 18,750 dollars equivalent in taxes which sounds kinda reasonable for one of our high tech supercities since it should attract the best of the best and shit).

>>3853920
>>3853928
Certainly a possibility.

>>3853912
A hero would make most sense. You guys provided connection, industry, hope, and a face to the future. That no matter what happens you faced demons, famine, war, devastation, gas attacks, and you are still here. That alone could have narrative power as the hero of humanity

>>3853955
Try to make somthing new a protector?

>>3853955
Maybe a benign trickster archetype. The trickster embodies what our organization stands for.... we stand against an oppressive authority trying to keep humanity huddled within the darkness of fear and ignorance but CATS brings different people together, empowering regular folks into becoming paragons of humanity, offering knowledge and finding unique means of overcoming trials and tribulations. Every now and then we burn our feathers, but we learn from our mistakes and emerge the stronger...

>>3853955
>>3853957
We need a hero that appeals to all of humanity: something so completely left-field that god can't prepare for it but at the same time something sufficiently believable or memeable that people will get behind it...it can't be of an existing religion, too much bad blood, it can't be a person from CATS, too close to creating a anti-christ and that leaves only one option:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXtyE_aEioo

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>>3853965

Do you reckon Heaven has the Sega Saturn?

>>3853978
Nope, which means we'll just have to introduce it to them. You do raise a good point, we should just get whoever is the Bruce lee of the universe at this point, I say that that way because most of the IRL ones are probably dead after all the shit that has happened.

Imagine a augmented martial artist: enhanced endurance alone would make them a damnably deadly fighter but adding in anything else would greatly enhance them.

>>3853823
Confirm, and make sure anyone who'd be doing the containment work knows that if it doesn't work the plan B is nukes. volunteer martyrs only.

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Wait!

It's so obvious! In all of humanity there is one entity who appeals across all cultures and tribes, a paragon of human kindness and decency, who brings out the best in everyone... All he asks of his followers is this:

Won't you be his neighbor?

>>3854017
Well the answer is clear, we must start assembling this team of extraordinary individuals to combat the threats that we can not.

Also you just made me think about the fact there is a good chance Mr Rogers is dead from the 1/3rd of humanity dying thing.

>>3854031

Mr. Rogers was a Presbyterian minister, so he probably was Rapture'd... Unless Turbo Jesus has a thing against puppets.

>>3854042
>so he probably was Rapture'd
I can therefore only imagine that he is currently fighting the good fight from the other side.

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>>3854046

Oh, I'm sure he is.

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To better prepare for the final battle, we should put an emphasis on unarmed combat. It may help our agents get close to the target without being recognized as an enemy.

In a lot of Apocalyptic fiction the soldiers get absolutely slaughtered at Megiddo due to God's 'Tricky Magic'.

Instead of overt force, we should opt for the ninja route. ((They're one of Christianity's more dangerous enemies.))

>>3853945
>>3854010

Plan B is going to be to destroy the Mount of Olives utterly, when the time comes. According to Zechariah 14:4, it will be split into two, east to west, and "the people" (meaning either Orthodox or Remnant) will flee through the new valley.

You're going to prevent this by nuclear fire, plain and simple.

Fortunately, you have a year to do it in, and your nuclear fuel production allows you to churn out a nuclear weapon per month without breaking a sweat, not to mention your stockpiles; unfortunately, it's in the one place in the world where you have to worry about sovereignity issues.

Dr. Robertson's design for Alkahest shows that tightly packing six U-H warheads around an old-style plutonium-hydrogen thermonuclear weapon should be sufficient to force the former to go off regardless of any changes in neutron capture rate. The bad news of course is that this precludes delivering the payload in any way other than

# building nuclear landmines over time, as part of a public works project, but you would have to find a pretext

# faking another near-miss with an Akhenaten-sized body and then modifying the navigation package of an Energia rocket to come back and hit the Earth, but you would have to, essentially, fake a moon landing.


This is the backup plan; you'll spend most of the money there, but the production effort is straight forward. The primary plan has more finesse: you're going to precisely pinpoint Jesus' location either

# upon landing the first time, or

# upon sitting on His throne for the Sheep and Goats Judgement

and bring there as many Gap Generators as possible, as well as some sort of silencing system that you haven't designed yet.

One of your first successes against the fixity of prophecy was noise-canceling Carpatescu's influence away from your mind; now you're going to have to do the same thing from a distance.

For that, you need an Angel.

The best way to cause Angels to appear is by creation of a situation in which enough Remnant will pray for them to, and so you have arranged for the kidnapping of one Bruce Tannock in the western Australian outback, to be conducted by Mr. Chandra because you don't wish to sully Moira's image as a heroine, as that may be needed.

To this end, you've put out a mercenary contract with Darkwater for Tannock's capture; your men will fight theirs in a way that appears to put the bait in danger.

# Ensure that a few members of the Young Tribulation Force are nearby, to maximize the chance of appearance.

# A two-way firefight is a sufficiently dangerous environment without inolving a third side.

>>3854068

That is Vahlen's plan, in a nutshell; coming in unarmed has served you well a few times, including with the Witnesses.

Dismemberment after that point is optional.

The safest way to deliver a combat team in that case would be by high-altitude or orbital drop; fortunately your "large satellite" design is quite able to hold a small team for a day or two.

>>3854042

Mr. Rogers was an extremely worthy individual, but he is not as well known as he should be outside North America. He was, in fact, Raptured.

>>3853986

Moira is scheduled to take part in a no-holds-barred tournment in a couple of months, happily!

>>3854130
# faking another near-miss with an Akhenaten-sized body and then modifying the navigation package of an Energia rocket to come back and hit the Earth, but you would have to, essentially, fake a moon landing.

CATS has the world's computing power, the ear of all the governments and enough clout to fake a thing like that, at least long enough to kill Jesus, after we do that? We can be honest about the truth and most people odd to thank us given we'd be the literal saviours of humanity.

# upon landing the first time, or

I'd rather not leave it until the judgements that promise to kill 80% of all humanity just in case we can fit in a second attempt.

# A two-way firefight is a sufficiently dangerous environment without inolving a third side.

We can perform additional incidents if we fail to summon an angel but starting out with them complicates things.

>>3854130
# faking another near-miss with an Akhenaten-sized body and then modifying the navigation package of an Energia rocket to come back and hit the Earth, but you would have to, essentially, fake a moon landing.

# upon landing the first time

# Ensure that a few members of the Young Tribulation Force are nearby, to maximize the chance of appearance.

>>3854177

Support

Rolled 1, 1 = 2 (2d2)

>>3854197
>>3854182
>>3854177

Bruce Tannock, through no fault of his own, is kidnapped and taken across the outback to a small underground base, where he is kept for a fairly hefty ransom, asked to his family.

He's only one guy, but you ensure that the story makes the news, and magnanimously offer to pay the ransom yourself.

The "underground base" is, of course, a maze that the Angel or Angels will have to solve in order to free Bruce.

>>3854237

The ransom exchange goes through without a hitch, and Bruce is released. Normally, that would be great, except you were waiting for some sort of supernatural intervention!

The local gap generators are off, Bruce was within one prayer circle of both Chloe and Chaim... what went wrong?

Maybe the guy isn't important enough; maybe the Angels are too smart...

And then one of your guys picks up something on the detector; there's someone, or something, standing invisibly next to Bruce as he thanks God for his liberation even though your hostage neotiator is sitting right there.

The idea here is to

# capture the angel for careful study

# shoot as much stuff at it as you can within the underground base to see what works and what doesn't.

# capture the angel for careful study

>>3854246
# capture the angel for careful study

Having a viable sample of Narrative-matter would be great to study: who knows we might be able to make a energy weapon that can decompose it.

>>3854246
# capture the angel for careful study

>>3854255
>>3854252
>>3854249

Bruce has been trying to talk to (arguably put the moves on) one of the captors, Rehema, who actually works for you; now that this is over, or so he thinks, he encourages her to look Micah's preaching up.

She tells him to duck, instead. The gap generators come on in full force, and while this doesn't make the Angel any more visible, it certainly makes ti less incorporeal, enough so that it shows up on sonar.

The Angel reveals itself a moment before a barrage of extinguisher foam would have forced it to do so anyway; Rehema leads Bruce to safety -- well, she pushes him into a closet, but it's probably a very safe closet -- and the Angel's subdual is attempted by an excessive application of

# cold; it worked for Eli and Moishe.

# beatings, courtesy of some of Mr. Vega's martial artists, as well as your own men.

# laser light right in the face.

>>3854268
># laser light right in the face.

It worked on the horsemen.

>>3854268
# laser light right in the face.

It worked on the horsemen, it worked on Eli and Moishe and it should work here too.

>>3854273
>>3854276
Great minds think alike.

# laser light right in the face.

Demons are just fallen angels, right?

>>3854281
>>3854276
>>3854273

A platoon of your soldiers -- including Chandra and a couple that were with you during the Sixth Trumpet -- quickly march into the underground base, position themselves on two lies, and train DEWs at the Angel, shooting it right in the face. It shields its eyes, at which point the men spread out so that they can keep hitting from multiple angles.

Rehema keeps Bruce calm as your people fan out and continue keeping the Angel blinded.

It tries to disappear again, an attempt which is quickly foiled by the fire extinguisher foam.

To subdue it, Chandra's men make use of

# resin and rope, nothing fancy.

# chlorophorm.

# locust ichor, from a jet injector.

# the burliest of the men walking over and delivering a righteous right hook to its jaw.

>>3854295
# resin and rope, nothing fancy.

Don't use locust ichor we MAY need to figure out how to kill them.

# locust ichor, from a jet injector.

These guys are supposed to break people out of prison, yes? I think they've maxed out their Escape Artist skill...

>>3854300

Good point....

#The burliest of the men walking over and delivering a righteous right hook to its jaw.

Time to test out the Martial Artist program is worth its salt...

>>3854295
# resin and rope, nothing fancy.