>>13504947
Even with all these mysteries about, the world government(s) has prioritized exploration through the Moongate. Though small-scale exploration has all failed, the extraordinary powers of the Moongate tearing all unmanned probes apart, the world's surving scientific community has determined that larger-scale craft should be able to survive the trip. From what little SEELE research they managed to decrypt, EVAs should be especially resilient- even immune. Indeed, the data even indicated that the only way any other craft could cross the Moongate safely would be with EVAs in their holds- the more the better. This led some argued that only EVAs should be used to save costs, especially since the decrypted research also provides for pseudo-S2 engines capable of lasting hours, and even recharging themselves.

More disturbingly however, was the discovery that the Moongate was built not by the Angels, but by what the SEELE files call 'the First Ancestral Race'. A source for this attribution has not been found, not even in SEELE's precious Dead Sea Scrolls.

In the end though, it was decided that the exploratory EVA teams would not go into the unknown without backup, and 3 Mobile Command Carriers capable of housing up to 6 EVAs and/or Tridents each along with air support were built.

>>13504949
These task forces duties are, in order of importance:

1) Explore the realms beyond the Moongates and eliminate any and all Angels
2) Seek out and recover any traces of the First Ancestral Race
3) Check the suitability of discovered worlds for human colonization.

Gameplay details to follow in the next post.

>>13504955
The game itself is going to be Lighter and Softer than the stuff EVA is usually famous for (mostly because I can sustain GRIMDARK to save my life), but that doesn't mean I want to GM a frolic in a field of daisies. So if anyone has any ideas of what players might face in the new worlds awaiting them, I'm all ears.

I also want to introduce a new character background, that of the Instrumentality Returnee, but apart from a healthy heap of insanity points, I can't think of what to introduce. Any help?

>>13504947
We require more pics of Ritsuko.

Oh, and the game itself is on IRC, possibly on Rizon, room to be decided, and I'm aiming for 1300-1700 GMT Fridays for gaming.,

>>13504967
Only other one I've got.

Hmmm, I dont know how closely you follow the general Ad Eva campaign structure, but in my experience Ad Evas tend to follow the general arc of the series.

If thats not what you're after, try rewatching the first few seasons of SG-1. I can see how you could combine the two concepts, and it would still be lighter and softer.

One example that springs to mind is how to do your first encounter.

Have the first world they discover be a desert planet like Abydos, and give them a solar-themed Angel. Heck, you could even dig up Egyptian Mythology and make that your obligatory esoteric bullshit for AdEva purposes.

>>13504977
Wait, I've got two more.

>>13505007
This picture would be infinitely better if it also had the male cast in the same outfits.

>>13505007

>>13504966
>So if anyone has any ideas of what players might face in the new worlds awaiting them, I'm all ears.
Since it's Stargate inspired, I assume there is some sort of dialing device that enables you to get a set of coordinates, all of them to different worlds in different parts of the galaxy.
And sinc eit IS stargate inspired, I imagine if a right set of conditions is met, you can travel through the gate in time, or arrive in a different universe. Like the original Eva verse, for example.

>I also want to introduce a new character background, that of the Instrumentality Returnee, but apart from a healthy heap of insanity points, I can't think of what to introduce. Any help?
Knowledge of things man was not supposed to know, his mind unable to ope with the horrible truths of the universe going mad as a result? Good ole Lovecraft had this right, more or less.

That gives me more ideas you can steal from good ole H.P.
How about arriving at, let's say, Mi-Go homeworld, or meeting the Ithians that greet you with "Hello again", or arriving at Cthulhutech Earth, wrecking some shit upsetting some balance and stealing lot's of delicious tech. They don't have to be exactly the same, just inspired by with terminology changed. Or something.

>>13505006
>Have the first world they discover be a desert planet like Abydos, and give them a solar-themed Angel. Heck, you could even dig up Egyptian Mythology and make that your obligatory esoteric bullshit for AdEva purposes.

Ha, this sounds good. Even so, I don't really want to copy Stargate wholesale, but putting Ra, Horus etc. in as Angels is something I really should've thought of earlier.

>>13505019
>How about arriving at, let's say, Mi-Go homeworld, or meeting the Ithians that greet you with "Hello again", or arriving at Cthulhutech Earth, wrecking some shit upsetting some balance and stealing lot's of delicious tech. They don't have to be exactly the same, just inspired by with terminology changed. Or something.

Oh God, you've given me some, if not horrifying ideas, at least some trollish ones...

>>13505043
Oh, and more setting details muggins forgot to put in:

Most of the world is relatively unclaimed now, with China practically an open wasteland. Japan's still a population centre, though that's less because of opportunities and tech, and more because it's the only place where the returness are emerging from.

Not that anyone wants to stay there, what with the giant Black Egg and assorted Third Impact signs (think the rings in the Rebuild movies) above Tokyo-3.

>>13505043
>Oh God, you've given me some, if not horrifying ideas, at least some trollish ones...
How about a planet entirelly covered in a extremely poisonous green crystal, a world that had a world war going there for generations.
The players arrive... and it's exactly as planned.

>>13504966
Instrumentality merges all minds together. Those that have been "tanged" become part of a collective consciousness. All thoughts, all memories, and all emotions swirl together as the barriers of the self are dissolved. You've implied that a person returning from instrumentality (possibly due to the incompleteness of the process, or some action on Shinji's part) is a composite being, built from fragments of everyone in the collective.

-Being built from so many parts renders the individual resistant to some forms of psychological damage, but vulnerable to others. You could implement sub-classes or specializations based on what kind of components make up the new individual, or just stick with one.

-The Instrumentality background makes the "self" unfamiliar, even moreso because of the many conflicting fragments making up the individual. A returner is less likely to be able to connect with others or maintain their Ego Barrier under duress.

-A returner knows well the feel of other souls, however. Syncing with an EVA is second nature, as is making use of that being's considerable power. However, the inherent desire to become one with others makes actually merging with the EVA or unleashing the berserker state a greater risk.

-Some of these individuals are compelled to return to the Instrumentality state. Others are compelled to flee from it. These two motivations would show up in roleplaying more than in crunch, but could present interesting benefits and penalties on their own.

- (Very Optional) Humans were not the only beings present in Instrumentality. A returner could have fragments of "other" minds just as easily as those of man. How this is reflected in the game depends on which type of fragment the individual has. If you're using the original series ending as background, remember that Adam, Lilith, and Units 01 and 02 were all present.

Well, going with the Stargate theme, perhaps the residents of these other worlds worship the angels as vengeful gods, who only appear when something has happened to anger them? Or perhaps individuals using scavenged First Ancestral Race Technology (Note: Do not abbreviate this) have set themselves up as gods? I don't know if the whole "false gods" angle is one you want to use, but I know I'd definitely tap it if I was running a campaign like this.

where can i download ad eva? searched on the rs but i dont know the full name

Links at the bottom of this page, one for full and one for chapters:
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Adeptus_Evangelion

>>13505096
Adeptus Evangelion.

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Adeptus_Evangelion

>>13504966
>>Instrumentality Returnee abilities

Advantage: By Will Alone
The Returnee is a creation of sheer force of will; they have battled their way forth from the sea of Consciousness.
The Returnee loses 2d10 Sanity and adds the result to their Ego Barrier and Synch Ratio. This may increase their Ego Barrier above 100%.

Returnees are allowed 1 skill of any type, and one Common Lore.
>>Represents the ad-hoc nature of the minds of many of them.
Returnees have 1d5 +4 WP.
>>Average
Roll 1d10 - on a 3+, the Returnee has 2 Fate Points. Otherwise, they have 1
>>Spent the rest pulling their shit out of the fire

I'd think about other advantages/disadvantages as being things like
• esoteric knowledge,
• a bonus to gaining/losing Sanity and/or Ego that works like Synch instability
• the ability to buy Cold-Blooded (1) at character generation
&c.

Also, Ritsuko.

>>13505058

The next world they visit is currently in the middle of a massive 3 way national war involving psychics, weaponised dolphins, tanks that shoot lightning, and that has been made substantially worse due to time travel related dickery.

If you want to be Stargate-like, I definately propose that other "humans" exist around the universe. I use the term loosely because humans in the NGE-verse are an accident and thus any other black moon around the universe would have produced something slightly different from us.

Perhaps there are other words where white and black moon met, perhaps even other worlds where NGE "repeated itself". Heck maybe what happened on earth may have been in fact one big xanatos gambit, not a coincidence like in canon.

>>13505093
Actually, I'm planning something like this, but I fear to go into more detail lest potential players come across it.

Anyway, reposting IRC details:

Server: Rizon
Room: TBD
Time: 1300-1700 GMT Fridays, though I might be able to go on for an extra hour or two, depending.

Discussion at #adeptusevangelion on Rizon.

>>13505058
I see what you did there.

>>13505146
>If you want to be Stargate-like, I definately propose that other "humans" exist around the universe. I use the term loosely because humans in the NGE-verse are an accident and thus any other black moon around the universe would have produced something slightly different from us.

I'm definietly planning something like this, though I'll need a little time for fleshing them out. Sandulim anyone?

Hey, there's an idea. How would lifeforms descended from other Angels be like? I mean, even assuming we're Lilim, we don't leak LCL, or grow bodyparts to encase in armour. Sure, Zeruelim will be big and mighty, but ribbon-razor arms? Will Ramielim have lazor powers and shifting geometrical bodies?

thanks ^^

>>13505144
Yes! Thank you!

I'm also looking here: http://pastebin.com/VTVfD9kD

Some good ideas here too; thanks to whoever wrote this!

>>13505152
Ancestral Race Technology.
The Art. Sounds much more... professional. Also mystical.

More Returnee (dis)Advantages:

Composite Mind
Select one Advantage or Disadvantage from any other class.

The Hedgehog's Dilemma: (Disavantage)
The Fellowship of the character is subject to the same variability as their Synch Ratio, and is rolled at the beginning of every session.

I Am He as You Are Me and We Are All Together:
The character is a walrus.

Alternately, if you want this to be a reasonable Disadvantage, the character has an almost pathological need to "get along", and will experience severe stress if rejected, confronted, or attacked by anther human being.

Hmm. This is kinda crap, but at least use the name. It's too awesome not too.

Pic is Rits's precursor character

Also, sweet FUCK! The Beatles were in on Instrumentality! The crazy "Paul is Dead" bastards were right. Oo

>>13505224
Composite Mind sounds good, not too sure about the Fellowship rerolling though. I think I might give them a slight penalty to Fellowship if they need to make direct contact with someone though. Empathy is fine, and they may use their Fel in place of Per when trying to gauge a person's feelings.

Her Ritziness being classy

>>13505224
Look at picture, see Debbie DuPree from Sealab 2021

Don't mind me, I just had a bit of a mind fuck for myself.

>>13505242
That latter suggestion actually sounds pretty good.

Something to do with ATS, as well - Perhaps a raw +1 bonus? At this point, we're talking about someone who has hewn a new body whole cloth from the Sea - they >know< the AT field on an instinctual level that most characters will never understand.

Another possibility is giving them a variant of "A.T. Ping" in P-scale.

Ok gotta ask how many of you guys saw Stargate before you even looked at the pic.
Because I know I did.

>>13505249
Ow. Yeah, same here now.

Incidentally, I'm running a Lovecraftian AdEva game of my own right now. Can't really post a bunch of the stuff, since one of my players browses here regularly, but "Hypnos", "At The Mountains of Madness", and "Call Of Cthulhu" all have some information on potential non-Lillim, non-Adamic life...

>>First Ancestral Race Technology

Ahem.

>>13505290
>Incidentally, I'm running a Lovecraftian AdEva game of my own right now. Can't really post a bunch of the stuff, since one of my players browses here regularly, but "Hypnos", "At The Mountains of Madness", and "Call Of Cthulhu" all have some information on potential non-Lillim, non-Adamic life...

Noted, and seeking out now.

>>13505308
WEEELP that's one acronym/term I won't be using in the game proper.

>>13505308
The lance of longinus is the only weapon depicted as capable of penetrating an AT field.

Ramiel's AT field was never actually breached. It was currently focused on attacking unit 1, which was able to survive long enough to exploit it's temporary vulnerability.

Come to Think of it, The Shadow Out Of Time and The Fungi of Yuggoth also have some extra-terrestrial life - the Great Reace of Yith from the former are about Eva-scale, and would make for some interesting possibilities, especially since they fled the planet later.
The Color Out of Space would make an odd angel - basically a very weak Anti-AT field surrounding an interdimensional core.
Kind of like a low-rent Keter for P-scale. Nowhere you can really dispose of hte shit though

>>13505011
>Maria and Shinji still use the same head
Successful shoop is successful.

>>13505350
Gah, I am facepalming myself, since my first (and so far, only) campaign was a CTech one- should've realized the Yith etc. would make handy aliens. Thanks.

>>13505351
Man!Sato confuses me sexually. Goddamn.

>>13505351
Yeah, Sadamoto admits outright Shinji is Nadia with(out?) testicles in one of the manga

Another idea, one shamelessly stolen from the fanfic 'Evangelion: Nobody Dies' : Friendly Angels, yea/nay?

Well slap my thigh and call me for supper, but this is all very interesting.

Also, >>13504977 - I don't think I've seen anything quite this FABULOUS in ages.

>>13505587
It's Kaworu, isn't it? Any more FABULOUS and he'd give all of Code Geass a run for its money.

Also, I'm really hbuilding up a stockpile of Maya/Ritsuko stuff. Can't say Im complaining.

>>13505611
Aren't they lesbian for each other?

I /really/ want to post an image from a Itsutoshi dojin here, but I can't.

So, linkage
http://img521.imageshack.us/i/renge227.jpg/

>>13505622
yes, that's the joke.

Also, gotta love the chibis. <3 Itsutoshi so much

Dear flood detection: go fuck yourself.

>>13505627
Maya is cool because she gets so little development yet she is so unique from the other characters. She expresses disgust when unit 5 gets nom nom nom, seems happy with herself, and has love and respect for her object of affection, not fear and despair. She can't really do anything to change the plot, so she just tries her best to be useful.

>>13505622
Not... sure. Though Maya definitely gives off the Ellen Degeneres vibes.

Anyway, I'm gonna catch me some shuteye. Hopefully this thread's around tomorrow. Thanks for all the help, /tg/!

>>13505658
Maya definitely loves Ritsuko. An illusion of Ristuko returning this love is what causes her ego to allow itself to be destroyed.

>>13505611
Actually, while Kaworu's "MY ABDOMEN IS THINNER THAN YOUR WRIST"-thing does register pretty high on the fab-o-meter, it was actually Maya that made it for me. That coy, ultra-feminine posture, and Ritsuko giving her the "I am so going to tap that"-look. Ah, good times.

>>13505351
Makes you wonder if Sinji's dad had an affair which is why he's so guilty over his wife's death.

More love for Maya, same source. Also, he writes some damn funny 4-koma.

Next up: Barely worksafe page wit absolutely hilarious faces.

Note that everyone here has, at this point, has sex with Shinji at LEAST once, and Misato and Asuka have gone for broke...

Karaoke night? Christ, there's a Life-on-the-ground segment to try men's souls...

>'First Ancestral Race'

Sounds familiar.

Have some Guyver intro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX5i50oLg_A

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/20411
Witch-Cult in Western Europe.
Serious anthropology book, dedicated to random spookiness and a contributor to Lovecraft.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9411
Legends of the Gods (of Egypt).
The Egyptian equivalent of Hesiod's work for the greeks.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7386
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/28282
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/22038
More of the same. Good for some light reading before you add in Egyptian gods to your Stargatey campaign.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/8492
The King In Yellow. It's about Nyarlhotep. It is awesome.

>>13506067
>dat picture

I am suddenly and heartily reminded of my liking for mature women.

OP listen.

OP

I'm just being really original here.

OP, you're listening?

OP, check this out.

What if...

What if they go to a planet, right?

The planet is a desert planet, with endless dunes of sand and shit.

All right? Check this out.

The planet...

The planet has giant worms, eh?

How bout that, huh?

That's great a idea, isn't it?

A slightly less heart-warming pic of Maya/Ritz, but still amusing

>>13506078

http://img38.imageshack.us/i/1134608595992.jpg/

Might like this one then.

Still throwing ideas out there - http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/11000
Gilgamesh. Quests past monsters under the "sea" to find Immortality..
Babylonian and Assyrian myth are also rich, rich veins to mine if you want to move on from Egyptian (which, it would seem, you already wish to do)

Bump. OP, this is a fantastic campaign idea.

>>13506177
Wow, do you have any more pictures like that?

>>13506176
Mmmm, I can taste the cinnamon already.

>>13508659
not really, but I do have some more funny/cute ones without nipples.

On an unrelated topic, did you know that Satoshi Urushihara did an eva dojinshi? I was certainly surprised.

When the OP gets back - I read through the Reclaimed, and I really feel that you should draw a distinction between them and the Returnees.

To wit:
The Reclaimed are fluffed, not as people who clawed their way out of hte Great Sea, but rather as people forcibly removed from it.
It could result in a longing to return, weak will (shored up by artificial means), and higher Fate.

A thought on starships. Since Evas are capable of getting ships through the gates, the eventual logical leap is to start making starships which incorporate Eva technology. Not entirely biological entities, but biological computers and subsystems strung through the mechanical shell of the ship. The end result would be a ship capable of passing through the gates, accepting a nerve-linked crew, manifesting an AT field (and using all the associated physics hax), and all sorts of other shenanigans. An Eva-ship could even serve as a mobile base of operations, or a supporting character if you're feeling like messing with the players ("Dammit Enterpriseiel, stop growing cameras in my cabin!").

Alternatively, cyborg ships could be a signature piece of Ancestral Race tech, which the players can react to as they please.

>>13510580
Is that said doujin?

>>13510653
Oooh, this sounds good. Gonna put that in fo' sho'

>>13510614
Gotcha.

Also, my office's ISP is blocked by 4chan, and 4chan doesn't allow proxies. Anyone know how I can get onto 4chan otherwise?

The returned, per my earlier comments at
>>13505144
>>13505224
are more disciplined, and less likely to enjoy the, ahem, company of others. They're also packing less Fate overall, which means they should be luckier in some other way as a compense (I.E. have ways of almost dying less often than the other characters).

Likewise, a special ability beyond "a higher ego barrier" should exist to help keep them from tanging (again), a thing the Reclaimed have no functional reason to do.

>>13510703
firefox + foxyproxy + http://proxy-list.org/en/index.php

>>13510703
Not the same dojin, here's one of the only WS pages from the Uru one. He also did some very nice single color pages, I can crosspost them to /e/ if you want.

That one I posted is from another circle, Saigado; it's from his early period, before he attained full maturity in his style - but also, thankfully, before he started specializing in (beautifully drawn, but not my thing) shota-on-tittymonster gangbangs.

>>13510580
I like that pic, it's very cute.

Hmmm.
Wild hair up my ass on this one.
Let Us Walk the Path of Destruction Together:

Some Returnees can >deliberately< tang inside the cockpit to up their synch ratio, and simply need to make a Hard willpower roll to reform; the degrees of success are subtracted in 30-minute increments from one hour after mission completion: otherwise, square the degrees of failure to determine the number of hours it takes.

While in this state, the character recieves [a sharp boost to SR and possibly another ability, and cannot be killed by certain types of cockpit hits]
But is subject to [Additional Feedback, more insanity points or some (mitigated) Ego barrier loss]


Pic is Saigado being cute

I know that I'm gonna sound stupid for saying this, but what if humanity finds other Eva-type forces on the other side? (yes, I know somebody said this already, I'm a slow writer)
I figure that humanity is the logical result of Lilith (unless I misunderstood the whole show), so we should find humans on other black-moon planets.
Now, I have no idea WHY other BMP's would need an Eva or equivalent, but it might make for a good twist on things.
Or, if you prefer, make new Lilith-derived angels for BMP's, or maybe add in a blue, red, or FABULOUS moon with another progenitor.
Instead of fighting angels, you get stuck assaulting bases of operations, and you can go on the attack for once.
Hell, you could even make up some bullshit excuse about the enemy Eva units: they might be the inevitable end result of black-moon life.

I dunno, I'm just rambling. Anyway, My question is one of mass shipment: getting the 20K ton mechs up to orbit is NOT an easy feat without an S2 organ. And getting 6 of the damn things, along with all the support staff, is nigh-impossible. You'd need some SERIOUS handwavium to get through that.

>>13511184
>>SERIOUS handwavium
Dirac Jaunt
Perfected S2 organs = infinite thrust.
Perfected Evas have wings.
AT Sheath, properly employed on a large scale means no atmosphere between you and orbit, greatly reducing drag. It's not going to erase gravity, but it's still a significant design concern.

>>13511184
An interesting twist might be a sort of parallel Earth where humans (or very close analogues) took root, dealt with the same sort of conflict with a different form of life, and ended up creating evangelions to deal with it. Trouble is, it sort of went to their heads, and while meeting another eva-using species was initially a pleasant surprise, not having Earth under their thumb has really pissed them off. Bam, instant recurring villain.

As for getting evas into orbit, it's been noted by several veteran AdEva players that there are very few problems, logistical or otherwise, which can't be solved by judicious application of Dirac seas. In fact, this could be another potential application of eva-ships. A large semi-organic spacecraft could probably do some more interesting shenanigans with a Dirac sea than a single eva. A Dirac transit system could even stand in for a transport beam while out on a cruise..

>>13511184
furthermore, the Geofront is now in orbit.
Earth has a large, stable satellite with some facilities already built on it: it's relatively airtight, and sealed against the vacuum.

Also, since we know evas are born, not made (if you will), it'd be much easier to ship up a fetal Eva and some armor and give it a few months. Might get some interesting mutations, too.

Humanity takes Star Gate, finds an Earthlike planet populated by strange humans. Humanity tries to initiate contact, but the strange humans attack, eventually creating their own versions of EVA's.

...reverse NGE, where an Earth got Angels as lifeforms instead Humans.

>>13511269
>>13511310
Crap, totally forgot about the lovely powers of teleportation. And the big moon thing. Okay, I retract those issues.
This is what I get for not actually having play experience. So, once we're in orbit, I suppose the ship itself is an issue.
How big is it? Is it like a base of operations? How do we deal with the weekly non-combat life when on a military vessel?
It seems that the juxtaposition of normal life that is so critical to AdEva isn't really present here.

Also, how Stargate-y are we thinking here? Save the world once a week? Explore brave new worlds? Abuse time loops to play golf?
Or is this still Evangelion, just in space?

Secondary issue: the world's been tanged. That means that SEELE and NERV head honchos are all gone. Uncountable millions (billions?) have lost their ego borderlines and been recoagulated from a bunch of people. The old scientists, techs, and soldiers are pretty much dead. Who's gonna run the project? How much time has passed? How in the hell does ANYONE still trust NERV and the Eva program after the last time?

Just my immediate questions.

Humanity discovers that the Ancestral Race's intent is to have multiple intelligent, environmentally incompatible species in the same system. They will eventually meet among the stars, and Darwinism ensues. The strongest races in each system lead the way through the Gates - deliberately constructed to require massive AT fields to penetrate - and perhaps duke it out there as well.

They wanted worthy Children, and are willing to create and destroy quintillions of intelligent beings over millenia to do it. We just encountered the other race in our system a little early...

The Progenitor guides the first stages of the evolution of their "children", and is then killed by their Lance as a control mechanism.

Several other planets have seen duels between Progenitors; not all of them are dead yet.
How do you kill a god without destroying the planet? Look what using the Lance did to >our< world...

>>13511622
>Also, how Stargate-y are we thinking here? Save the world once a week? Explore brave new worlds? Abuse time loops to play golf?
>Or is this still Evangelion, just in space?
I dunno, but if we are copying Stargate I say we need a big interstellar empire utilizing angels or angel-derived tech marvels as it's guardians. Like someone said before, first mission would be going to Abydos and meeting the ancient god ruling the populace - Ra. Or, in this case he's not a snake in someone's head but a pimped out alien eva. It turns out there are lot's of them ruling the galaxy, and earthlings are one of the few with power enough and willing to fight. There even could be a defector.

Pic is your eva pilots.

>>13511622
Same person, same incessant complaints!

My worry here is that we risk sequelitis. This is, not to put too fine a point on it, VERY different from the usual AdEva fare. Once the angels are gone, suddenly we are invading THEM. We lose a lot of our moral high ground, and when you look at the people on the protagonists' side in the original show, that puts us right between "villains" and "Necrons" on the "how bad are we to the rest of the universe" scale.

That detail alone, the fact that we're on the offensive, changes a lot. We don't have a base (but upgrading the ship could be awesome).
We can lose a fight and not damn the species. That takes a lot of the terror aspects out of the setting.
With instrumentality averted, what exactly are we fighting for? I know the "exploration" approach works, but it doesn't feel like it fits into the setting of cosmic monsters, child soldiers, and utter bastardry on the part of our commanding officers.

I guess the thing I really am unsure about is why this game needs to use AdEva. It's not really...Eva, I guess. Exploration, thrills, new sights and sounds, these things seem to grind up against the terror, depression, and angst of the original. What should be done about this?

>>13512139
We do what Stargate did. By killing our first angel behind the gates, we are sending a clear signal to the rest of the galaxy / universe - "look at us, we just killed one of you, and we can kill you too. We are the first real threat to your hold over the galaxy since untold millenia". What do you expect them to do? Of course they are going to try the damned best to find Earth and crush us. And we can't defend our planet from, let's say, ten thousand angel-analogues attacking at once.

Mission objective is to:
-Locate any and all alien technology to aid in earth's defense
-Sabotage the enemy at every opportunity
-delay the inevitable enemy counterattack
-gather any potential allies

Basically, running against a clock and trying to buy time before some for now unspecified enemy inevitably finds out earth's location and launches a devastating attack we have no chance of defending against.

kindness bump

Bumping, sounds like it mit b cool.

So, massive base stations/carriers, perhaps built with eva tech, carrying an team of explorers and some support, along with the Eva pilots and their personal devices.

This whole thing suppositories itself through a gate on the moon, exploring new worlds in a quest to find more awesome stuff to keep ourselves alive?

interesting.

>>13513122
Plus Egyptian mythology.

What you did there, Adama sees it.

>>13512139
>>We lose the moral high ground

Most of the characters never really had it: see "utter bastardy", "Child soldiers" &c.
we were lashing out, gunning for pure survival. Now, with only perhaps a billion humans left alive, we find a portal on the moon.

No-one knows exactly where the Angels came from, but there are fragmentary references to the Ancestrals, and with the public knowledge of at least 3 Orbital/flying Angels it's not hard to start putting one and one together to get 11, especially since the UN initially claimed the Angels were aliens.

So we launch a scout team through the portal - blind - and come up against someone using something very much like an Eva to keep a population of millions of.. humans?.. in utter servitude.

Birghtfagging ensues.

The most interesting part is the possibilities the Returnees provide, both for pilots older than 14 capable of synching, and for random scraps of useful knowledge stolen from other people coupled with an unstable self-image and mild insanity.

>>13513122

The Supreme and Vice Commanders of UN NERV for your campaign.

So say we all!

Make it a Land Fortress or a Battleship for the OD instead of the regular Geofront. That way the OD can actually be there.

Have it have NO weapons unless they buy turrets. Add the turrets to the ship. Give it N2 Mine launchers if they pick up N2 Strike. If you have access to the prototype neo-OD class (Not finished but good to look at) is has some cool things in the special projects section.

>>13514329

Phobos Cannon. Mount a Huge Positron cannon on the OD's Battleship/Land Fortress/Whatever.

Though for some reason it has less potential damage than a Great Positron Cannon...

>>13514627
nah, then they are cruising around in a super battleship.

where is the challenge?

i see something more like a blocky shape on.. hmm.. treads maybe. All of the Eva units arrayed along the outer edge, standing up in vertical bays with doors opening outward to allow them to step out. And maybe another massive door on the front and back of the crawler-base, to allow a damaged unit to be recovered on a huge wheeled platform that can bring them inside into a cast repair bay.

Then the space Above the repair bay and Between the units facing outward would house the bulk of everything else, with a combined Central Dogma/control room that has windows facing out the front and also overlooking the internal bay.

add a tiny helicopter in a hanger on the roof, along with its equally tiny hanger and a mixed bag of trucks, armored vehicles and bicycles sharing space in the lower bay with the Eve retrieval sled and you have a mobile base/lab ready to get out there and cause trouble.. err.. that is, get out there and save us all.

>>13514900
oh, and with the units arrayed along the outside, the pilots could insert plugs and bring up their AT fields to surround the whole device, allowing passage through the gating device.

anyhow. yeah.

>>13514900

Well the Battleship would have NO weapons. It would just be a plot reason to have the Geofront turn up at any planet. And a place to put the turrets you buy.

More a carrier than a battleship

>>13514996
Adding the battleship would do.. very interesting things to the Collateral mechanic.

Perhaps after a certain CD threshold, you can't move it anymore, and the team starts taking (mission at least) casualties?

Sure, you won, but unit 02's bay is too shot up to hold her for now, you're down 5 of your 20 Umbilicals, the reactor's been browning out every 10 minutes for 3 hours, and there's another Angel on an intercept course - ETA 212 minutes.

Worse, 20% of the Techies are down, units 01 and 03 are critted, and the Gate doesn't close for another 3 hours.

>>13515494

Battleship damage would be a very good way to use collateral. 'No Upgrades for you, we spent our budget replacing the engines you blew off'

First off, I am hopeless at using Foxyproxy. Now that's said:

>>13511622
>How big is it? Is it like a base of operations? How do we deal with the weekly non-combat life when on a military vessel?
The ship is huge, but specifics are rather nebulous at the moment. Suffice to say though, it's an endeavour comparable to the first Geofront.

>Also, how Stargate-y are we thinking here? Save the world once a week? Explore brave new worlds? Abuse time loops to play golf?
Ultimately, that is a question only the players can answer. I'm aiming for exploration, First Contact, and ultimately intergalactic politics, but depending on how players react, that may change.

>>13517321
>Secondary issue: the world's been tanged. That means that SEELE and NERV head honchos are all gone. Uncountable millions (billions?) have lost their ego borderlines and been recoagulated from a bunch of people.
Not the whole world, but China's pretty much a nonentity, while Japan is quickly turning into a massive, multicultural morass due to the fact that it's the only place where people are returning from the Black Egg. The rest of the world's pretty much intact though, with Russia, Europe (ruled from Germany) and the United States taking the lead. No more COld Wars though; while they do have their suspicions about each other, SEELE's recovered files have revealed that there is a vast, unfriendly universe out there, possibly more Angels even, and it's no use bickering when the brushfire's so near your house.


>The old scientists, techs, and soldiers are pretty much dead.
AGain, not all of them. In fact, primary research facilities (NERV Tokyo-3 was pretty much a fortress, nothing more) in Europe and the States are fully staffed and operational.

>Who's gonna run the project?
Again, a tripartite project between Europe, the US and Russia, though in reality, humanity is ruled from Tokyo-3 (see below)

>How much time has passed?
10-20 years.

>How in the hell does ANYONE still trust NERV and the Eva program after the last time?
If anything, trust in NERV and the EVA project has skyrocketed, tahnks to the Returnees; they have especially vivid memories of Shinji refusing Instumentality and saving them all.

>>13512139
Not only that, but the main theme of Moongate: MG-Shogoki (good campaign name?) is the ascension of the Lilim as an Angel in our own, collective right. We won the Angelic war, we've proven ourselves the dominant species worthy of the Earth. Now's the time to go out and show our kin what we can do. Besides, I'm of the opinion that Eva is, in the end, about hope; hell, I think it's as 'FUCK YEARGH!' as TTGL, expect it makes its point in a more roundabout way. The series showed us how being so tied up in yourself, so tied up in the Hedgehog's Dilemma, could cause catastrophe, and the new movies (Rebuild 2.0 in HOLY SHIT FUCKING YEAH particular) show us just what the original cast could be if they just got rid of their 'me, me, me'complexes. Sure, Shinji still loathes his father, Rei's still a quiet inhuman shell, and Asuka's an overconfident bitch on the surface. But for all that, they're otherwise normal people, and when circumstances change, so do they.

And that's the feeling I want to try evoke with MG-Shogoki. That said, if the players turn it into a Lovecraftian hellhole, who am I to stop them?

Oh, and game's on IRC, times 1300-1700 GMT Friday, if anyone wants to join. I'm hoping for 3-5 players by the end of January, or am I being too optimistic?

>>13517478
Back to Q&A:

>>13514329
I'm making it a flying spacecraft simply because the Moongates themselves lie, well, mostly on moons, artificial or otherwise. Whoever the Ancestral Race were, they were big on hiding their works from sentient life.

>>13514900
>nah, then they are cruising around in a super battleship.

Not really, no. While the OD can request turrets from NERV High Command, The Powers That Be think that the Command Carriers are well-protected enough by their EVAs and air support, and as such the poor OD must use Surplus to purchase turrets and whatnot.

>>13515494
>>13515555
Exactly. Also, it has been pointed out that the OD is, to be frank, largely irrelevant, as other EVA classes have their own support and attack talents that render the OD more of a simple Fate Point bank for the players (at least during EVA combats).

As such, I'm thinking of introducing a special stat called Status, which determines how famous a certain Command Carrier and its crew are. Even with low Surplus, a high Status might ensure said Carrier and crew get what they need- perhaps some nations donate stuff, maybe they're chosen for weapons testing.

>>13517478
Going to go see 1.0 in theater at that time, alas. Would otherwise be most pleased to partake. At least you've gotten me onto the IRC, which I've needed to do for a while.

Further ideas:

1: I was also thinking of developing the OD as something like a Rogue Trader from RT; once a round, regardless of level, he can give a 10% bonus to a single pilots' skill check. An additional pilot can be given this bonus per level, and the OD may purchase upgrades at Ranks 1,2 and 3 at 100, 200, and 300 XP

2: I'm currently trying to build a Command Carrier Quirk table. This is harder than you may think, since the Command Carrier is mostly a plot device.