>objectivism thread go

This guy?

>>15878113
No but that's roughly the right flavour of fucking asshole that I was looking for.

>>15878113
seems to be lacking the cheap wine and bread crust in his collar.

>>15878113
I hate this person and I don't even know him

>>15878129
some people just have a face that seems like it's made to be caved in.

>>15878113
>Spot "Loveless" manga on shelf

Hah, he's a queer too. That's funny.

(It's yaoi)

>>15878155
well, he also reads Terry Pratchett at least...

>>15878113
> Harry Potter
> Halo novels
> Hellsing DVDs
> The Garfield Gallery
> X-Wing novels

Yeah, I don't think this guy's collection exactly screams stuffy literary pretentiousness. Expression makes him look like a douche though. Two to one his parents were all, "Oh Jimmy you're always reading your books. Why don't you pose for us in front of your bookshelf!"

>>15878161
Douglas Adams... next to a Halo book

I'll go get the pitchforks

>>15878155
Wait a moment...

How do YOU know what it is?...

>>15878113
>>15878155
>>15878139
>>15878129
>>15878120
>>15878119
C'mon guys, he can't be all that bad if he likes Garfield.

>>15878173
Not that guy, but I know what it is because I have a little sister.

>>15878092
I'm no fan of objectivism, but I dislike blatant straw men even more.

>>15878224
That man is clearly made of flower, not straw.

>>15878092
That guy has total douchefce.

fuck that bookshelf is so unorganized. I'd shoot myself if I found my books like that. goddamn.

>>15878281
Passing anon here, but I'm going to have to agree with you there. Holy shit, how does he walk in that room and not have feel irritated?

>>15878155
>>15878173
It's actually a pretty decent series, with a pretty bitchin' (if hard to explain) magic system.

I want to see this picture.

I need to know what he means by "with a bread crust in his collar".

>>15878113
I made some fan art

>>15878113
wow what a fucking fag

>>15878113
>Deliberately on show copies of what he considers books which are acceptable to like, such as Northen Lights and Sherlock Holmes
>Martial Arts: Traditions, History, People, dust cover screwed up and discarded under it.
>Full Collection of Star Wars Graphic Novels about the expanded universe shit.
>Two copies of the Hitchhikers Guide, none of the sequels, no Dirk Gently.

Seriously. Fuck this douche.

>>15878224
>Implying Objectivists aren't irl strawmen

>>15878331
It's a teenage nerd.

Did you think they were supposed to look suave and sophisticated?

>>15878331
You just jelly cuz yo literature sucks

Ya'll check it out,dis fag anon wanna dis mah brutha up in there, and why? Cuz he MAD! He's mad as hell, and lemme tell ya why he's bad.
See dis guy >>15878331,
he be chillin in his crib and den sum hot bitches drop by and be like "c'mon daddy we wanna play" and then they see his bookshelf and see he no got no stuffed animals with his books and they be like "Hahaha what a fag, c'mon Trixie lets leave this looser, I heard this guy shale has like, his entire top bookshelf stuffed with teddybears."

And dat why dis boy mad

I can't imagine I looked any less ridiculous at that age.

>>15878113
I can't stop raging.

You all just jelly that he got a nerd fangirl girlfriend before he even had to start shaving, and she wanted to take a picture of him when he was hanging out and looking for something to read.

But is this douche an objectivist?

>>15878374
>>15878404

>>15878436
>deliberately atheist literature
>terrible taste
>GARFIELD
Yes.

In my day we called them sociopaths

>>15878447
>yaoi
>stuffed animals
He's in his girlfriend's bedroom.

>>15878465
I think he's just a fag.

>>15878469
Who is the bigger fag? The fag in the picture, or the fag that decides he knows everything about the fag in the picture based entirely on what he happens to be standing beside at one moment in his life?

>>15878487

You.

>>15878465

maybe hes a girl inside

OP here

As funny as this all may be, does anyone have the image I'm looking for?

>>15878436
>Michael Moore
>Objectivism
>Two awful tastes that taste nonsensical together.

>>15878520
If you're stupid enough to buy into either of them then you're stupid enough to be capable of that degree of doublethink.

>>15878513
maybe hes inside a girl

>>15878552
Not fucking likely

He is more into the boys

You know, I'm curious, has anyone actually ever gamed with an Objectivist? Do they rules lawyer? Make godawful mary sues? Suck up to NPCs?

>>15878564
Once. It was awful. He couldn't roleplay any perspective other than his own, so was effectively playing a self-insert. He couldn't distinguish between IC and OOC either.

>>15878560
Nah man my boy be stylin on dem bitches like it's natural

>>15878564
I played with some guys who became Objectivists mid-campaign.

They only stayed in it to sabotage it to the point that the group disintegrated and the campaign was abandoned midway through, later claiming that they only "withdrew the value they had created in the game themselves" before going to one of their mom's basement to start their own game without the other players.

They had to make all their own rules, but they said it was a much better game because it was all theirs.

>>15878519

Sorry OP, I know what you're talking of, and think I've seen it in /sci/ recently, but didn't save it...

>>15878630
Could you describe it better than I did? I haven't seen it for months.

>>15878603
...also, one of them stole my rent money ("for what we were forced to pay into the pizza and coke fund against our will"), and shared it out to the others. The rest of them said they didn't really agree with what he did, but still refused to give any of it back.

>>15878667
I'm assuming they were partaking of the pizza and coke?

Also, how much pizza did you guys eat that it was the equivalent of a month's rent? Holy crap!

>>15878667
>>15878696
my face

>>15878603
>>15878667
>>15878696
sounds like you got a case of the crazy ones. Usually they're the type that basically (ironically enough) worship Ayn Rand as a goddess, though even most of those types I've met wouldn't do that. Even less so among the ones that don't fall into that category.

>>15878667
>The rest of them said they didn't really agree with what he did, but still refused to give any of it back.

Am I your friend? Because that is exactly what I'd do.

I never encountered a Objectivist. What are they?

>>15878826
Sociopathic libertarians instead of just autistic.

>>15878826
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_%28Ayn_Rand%29
Wank

>>15878811
you'd steal rent money and feel wronged by having to chip in on pizza money? man you are a tool of the highest calibre

>>15878843
>>15878854

Oh. Wait a minute... I remember reading a bit of that awful book series Sword of Truth and I think the author tried to pull something like that there. I could be wrong, I stopped reading early.

>>15878667
I'm curious as to how they were "forced" into chipping in. Surely they could have just not contributed and either gotten their own food or brought some from home.

>>15878878
No, I would disagree with the other guy taking the rent money and passing it out to people (myself included) but I wouldn't give the my share of said money back.

>>15878920
Fuckwads like you are why I never use cash anymore.

>>15878603
>They only stayed in it to sabotage it to the point that the group disintegrated and the campaign was abandoned midway through, later claiming that they only "withdrew the value they had created in the game themselves" before going to one of their mom's basement to start their own game without the other players. They had to make all their own rules, but they said it was a much better game because it was all theirs.

An autistic self-centered fuck by any other name...

Yeah, "objectivist" is just another philosophy often bastardized by CHUD fuckheads because it provides an easy excuse for SUPAR SPECHUL SNOWFLAEK status. As usual, the vast gulf between the fantasy of the CHUD and the reality is a source of incredible irony; in this case, objectevist philosophy would advocate the brutal asskicking of the CHUD, since they are always and forever leeches who spoil games for other people and are, by nature, incapable of running them themselves.

And thus otherwise unremarkable creeds get tarred with the cheeto stains of the CHUDs.

Also:

>objectivism thread
>intelligent replies

Hot damn, /tg/, you make me proud.

>>15878920

>I'd say it's wrong to steal money but then I'd refuse to give stolen money back to the owner

>>15878932
>Yeah, "objectivist" is just another philosophy often bastardized by CHUD fuckheads because it provides an easy excuse for SUPAR SPECHUL SNOWFLAEK status
Speaking of using things as justification, one guy I know uses Buddhism as his excuse for being a dick to other people because "it balances things out". That alone let me know that he doesn't actually know anything about Buddhism.

>>15878696
>>15878769
>>15878894
>>15878932
Guys, it's not a true anecdote. It's the plot of Atlas Shrugged.

>>15878886
I managed to read up to the end of the 4th book.

Then fucked it off when it turned into Magic Hitler vs Magic Stalin with Bondage and Rape every tenth page and Objectivism ever third page.

After the first book it seemed to turn into nothing more than a cross between a political rant box for retards and the authors own personal fap-fic.

I felt dirty and used after coming to this conclusion.

I am glad that i stopped reading when I did as after the 4th book it went Full Retard and in one scene i am told Richard Rhal rides down a mob of unarmed militant pacifists because they lacked moral purity.

Terry Goodkind is the shittiest author ever.

>>15878949

HAHAHAHA WHAT, SERIOUSLY

>>15878988

I remember something about Richard suddenly stopping with consuming meat and then some book later on it turns out it was just a phase.

>>15878954

Fucking /tg/ is so dumb sometimes, I swear.

>>15878949
He apparently knows more about Buddhism than you do.

Buddhists have been pulling variations on that shit since time immemorial.

>>15878954
>>15879030
Not everybody has read the book, guys.

>>15879046
One of the core principles is basically "don't be a dick to other people".

>>15878932

...the fuck's a CHUD?

>>15879071
That's one of the core principles of Christianity, too. Actually, that's one of the core principles of pretty much every religion and every secular philosophical alternative to religion.

...and it's never very hard to turn it into a reason why it's okay to be a dick to THIS person, THIS time.

>>15878113
>Garfield

He must die

>76 posts
>no actual response to the OP

Keep on truckin', /tg/

>One of the core principles is basically "don't be a dick to other people"

Its core principles are remarkably easy to twist into supporting imperialism and mass murder.

>>15879086
Religions like Christianity contain language that can be interpreted to make it okay to hate gays and such. Buddhism's guidelines pretty much rule out being a dick to other people since the way to enlightenment involves not saying things that aren't helpful and saying helpful, but potentially hurtful, things in a tactful manner and at an appropriate time. It also involves "Right Speech", a part of which is not being verbally abusive.

Tell me again how this can be twisted to mean it's okay to be a dick.

>>15879030

Why the hell would I want to read Rand's garbage?

>>15879030
>implying people should automatically recognize that as a joke based on the plot of Atlas Shrugged, when most people haven't read it
No anon, you are the derp. Add in the potential for overwhelming bullshit you can get by combining the worst parts of objectivists and pnp gamers, that story was completely believable as it was. After half the shit you see in the THAT GUY threads on here, that was pretty tame really.

>>15879129
Never start a thread with a picture more interesting than your topic.

>>15879175

A more infamous and yet fitting example for taking shit out of context to justify your douchebaggery I couldn't find.

>>15879099
Screw you, Garfield is awesome.

>>15878949
I need a table to flip now. I have a friend who's into Buddhism, and she's one of the nicest people I've ever met.

IIT: Neckbeards get asspained because they've been off /b/ too long to recognize a troll pissing contest.

God, /tg/ mods are fucking retarded. /lit/ would have OP banned before the first 5 replies.

>>15879072
Cannibalistic humanoid underground dweller.

They live in the sewers.

Yo, Zen Buddist here, what's going on in this thread?

>>15879175
>The one that is used by a technician cannot go any further than killing, for he never appeals to the sword unless he intends to kill. The case is altogether different with the one who is compelled to lift the sword. For it is really not he but the sword itself that does the killing. He had no desire to do harm to anybody, but the enemy appears and makes himself a victim.
This is what happens when you ignore entire sections of a religion for your own convenience.

>>15879189
Buddhist fishermen gather fish under the pretense that they're saving them from drowning underwater.

You can twist anything into anything with a little work.

OKAY! THAT'S IT! IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE, THEN GET OUT!

GO FIND YOUR OWN CARCASS TO LIVE IN!

GO ON! GO ROT IN THE JUNGLE!

SCAVENGER!

HYENA!

PARASITE!

...

COMMUNIST.

>>15879226
>Garfield is awesome

>>15879273

>>15879288

>Buddhist fishermen gather fish under the pretense that they're saving them from drowning underwater.

Are humans driven by desire and allow their desires to justify about anything? Yes, there are such humans. A-plenty even.

Others try to mindful of their desires and to not be blindly driven by them.

What does that have to do with the truth of Buddhism though?

>>15879273
>>15879288
>>15879299
>Spiderman thread
>/tg/
>2011

>>15879275
>gather fish under the pretense that they're saving them from drowning underwater.
This falls under ignorance, which Buddhism explicitly intends for a practitioner to overcome. While their ignorance might not be willful, the result is still bad karma (since they're ignorantly doing things with good intention but the result is ultimately bad).

>>15879282
Are you trying to say he isn't awesome?

>>15879282
Hell no. It might not be higher reading (it's a fucking comic strip), but that fat cat is what taught me to read when I was a youngin'.

>>15879338
I, for one, welcome such a gentleman!

>>15879338
http://gunshowcomic.com/427
This is the best Garfield comic.

>>15879324
>if I see that fucking Costanza one mo time

>>15879328

Buddhism isn't about avoiding bad karma or accumulating good karma. It's about transcendence.

>>15879328
>>15879322

These people are not even ignorant. There is no way that a grown man could believe that fish drown in water and not on land, especially not one who works with them for a living.

They are performing mental gymnastics to allow themselves to harm an animal while pretending that they haven't broken their moral philosophy which forbids harming animals.

It has absolutely nothing to do with "the truth of Buddhism, though" it's simply a blatant refutation of the idea that Buddhism is immune to being twisted to justify violence and cruelty.

>>15879369
Fanfiction Friday is the best

>>15879447
When it's twisted as such, it's no longer Buddhism. It is something parading itself around under the guise of Buddhism. This is the point I'm making. Claiming to follow Zen Buddhism while not actually following ZEN BUDDHISM.

>it's simply a blatant refutation of the idea that Buddhism is immune to being twisted to justify violence and cruelty.

Buddhism is, Buddhists aren't.

The whole point here seems to be that it is being twisted and that that is the problem.

>>15878988

Michael Z. Williamson and Tom Kratman are two unbelievably sucky authors too.

Williamsons books are in essence several hundred pages of incoherent, barely sane objectivism wank.

Kratman i really could not say as i gave up reading after a few chapters.

>>15879483
They aren't Nips or stupid Americans trying to be cool by following a non-Abrahamic religion.

They're the society that fucking invented this religion, and they'd been following it for a thousand years when your grandfather with sucking his mothers tits for sustenance. They practice it as much as anyone else. (Keep in mind, basically everything used in modern society has an animal murdered to produce it at some point in production, so American vegan Buddhists are still faking it.)

Quit No True Scotsmanning at me.

"Americans aren't really Christians or they wouldn't have war."

"Actually, neither are South Americans, or Europeans for the same reason."

"China isn't Buddhist, look at all the shit they do he'd disapprove of!"

"Israel isn't really Jewish, God clearly said to stone the gays and they do not."

"Mohammed was taught by a Christian monk and had respect for People of the Book, modern Middle Easterners are clearly not Muslims."

Holy shit, everyone on the planet is non-religious.

>The whole point here seems to be that it is being twisted and that that is the problem.

The world is not perfect and as has been said before anything can be twisted. It happens more often in a society that isn't vigilant.

This is the best thread on /tg/ right now

Well done OP and >>15878113, you are heroes

>>15878139
The Germans have a word for that. It's
Backpfeifengesicht: "a face in need of a fist".

>>15878339
I have the bound collection of the Hitchhiker's Guide series with all of the novels in one tome but it only says "Hitchhiker's Guide" on the side. If we're being fair.

>>15879620
This always annoyed me with Hitler, everyone said he was non-christian because of what he did to the jews but thats what Christians do, kill jews

>>15879620
>Keep in mind, basically everything used in modern society has an animal murdered to produce it at some point in production, so American vegan Buddhists are still faking it.

There is literally no possible way to live in a first world country and not use a product that at some point uses pig product. Muslims and Jews are impossible.

>>15879843
The anti-pig thing was really just to avoid parasites. In the modern world muslims and jews should recognize that and not care. In my experience, most jews will eat pork, and only the orthodox or people with sudden urges to reconnect with their heritage will abstain. Idunno about muslims.

>>15879843
Gelatin used to be made out of horse bones, but is now primarily rendered from pig skin.

So. No gelatin caps. And no marshmallows or gummi bears.

>>15879907
>no gummi bears
And here I thought I was being orthodox this whole time. Maybe I should cut my hair.

>>15879914
Yep, pig skin.

Does anyone know what kind of bone charcoal they use to refine white sugar?

I'm sure either Hindus or Muslims+Jews are fucked on refined sugar.

You can still drink soda pop though, that's high fructose corn syrup.

>>15879959

A year or so back i saw a report some woman had made, tracking where every single part of a pig went when it was butchered, it was insane, it was used in hundreds of different products.

>>15879959
High fructose corn syrup is made by chemically breaking corn starch down into dextrose, and then using enzymes to convert the dextrose to fructose (then they mix fructose syrup with dextrose syrup, usually to achieve a 55-45 split).

The enzymes to make the fructose are extracted from pig offal.

>>15879992
We should all thank the Pig God for the gifts he bestows upon us.

>>15879996
Awesome.

So no sweets whatsoever.

>>15880124
Actually, that was a lie.

I also like to take a sharpie to the supermarket, and go around scribbling out Gs on the "100% Angus Beef" Top Dog hot dogs.

>>15880157
Oh! How lucky for those anons of Jewish or Muslim descent who enjoy a good Mr. Pibb.

>>15879620
>Holy shit, everyone on the planet is non-religious.

That is actually it. Most people just do whatever's convenient.

>>15880327
Everyone is heretics!

>>15880327
source?

>>15878603
>They only stayed in it to sabotage it to the point that the group disintegrated and the campaign was abandoned midway through, later claiming that they only "withdrew the value they had created in the game themselves" before going to one of their mom's basement to start their own game without the other players.

>They had to make all their own rules, but they said it was a much better game because it was all theirs.

...Rapture?